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Van doesn't like going up inclines! Old or expected?

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Postby thehangmen » Fri May 12, 2006 10:18 pm

Teamster wrote:
motorwise wrote:
Teamster wrote:Whats the chassis number?


stand near a hill and you'll probably be able to write it down as he passes - sorry - :wink: - sometimes they are a bit sluggish up hills - check the cam and pump timing and give it a good service - can't do any harm



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:lol: good one!
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Postby tractive-effort » Sun May 14, 2006 11:07 am

If it has the Bosch pump fitted it will most likely be the pump diaphragm sticking due to the qualities of low-sulpher fuel. There is a mod that can be done, though some smiley front's managed to slip through the net.

Your probably down to about 30-40 on steep hills and it probably struggles to get 60 on the flat? I'd take it to a diesel injection pump specialist and start from there. No doubt tweaking the pump has a similar effect, but like someone said to me a few weeks back on here 'it's not the root cause of the fault'..
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Postby stevo » Sun May 14, 2006 9:15 pm

We've got a trannie that struggles on hills, usually have to drop down to second, and on one hill by our shop, its first gear.
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Postby Transitwalla » Sun May 14, 2006 9:52 pm

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usually have to drop down to second, and on one hill by our shop, its first gear.

Reminds me of my first visit to Somerset? in the MK1 van I owned for about a month. Taking the very scenic route to Barnstaple / Devon, we encountered on something called Porlock Hill...good god a hundred yards up and it was first gear all the way...4, 5 and sometimes 6 miles per hour . . so slowing down a little bit on inclines aint nowt to worry about :)

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Postby thehangmen » Sun May 14, 2006 10:38 pm

tractive-effort wrote:Your probably down to about 30-40 on steep hills and it probably struggles to get 60 on the flat? I'd take it to a diesel injection pump specialist and start from there. No doubt tweaking the pump has a similar effect, but like someone said to me a few weeks back on here 'it's not the root cause of the fault'..


Not quite that bad, it handles 70-80 pretty much ok, but 30-40 on a long steep climb isn't unusual, if there's a headwind especially.
It's most noticeable after slowing down from 70+ on an incline, just got to pull into the slow lane and wait!
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Postby tractive-effort » Mon May 15, 2006 12:16 am

thehangmen wrote:
tractive-effort wrote:Your probably down to about 30-40 on steep hills and it probably struggles to get 60 on the flat? I'd take it to a diesel injection pump specialist and start from there. No doubt tweaking the pump has a similar effect, but like someone said to me a few weeks back on here 'it's not the root cause of the fault'..


Not quite that bad, it handles 70-80 pretty much ok, but 30-40 on a long steep climb isn't unusual, if there's a headwind especially.
It's most noticeable after slowing down from 70+ on an incline, just got to pull into the slow lane and wait!


It'll get worse believe me - mine wouldn't do 60 on a flat when I bought it! The injection specialist told me they deteriorate with time as opposed to mileage. I suspect the final drive ratios play a big part no matter what the condition of the pump diaphragm, though I always thought mini buses were 190s and had the same axle ratio as a LWB/SHT panel van?? Even with the pump fixed, EGR disconnected it won't do 80 on a flat.......70 is good enough for me though and it will do that on most inclines (up until head gasket change anyway - 45 for the next 1000 miles until bedded in :? )
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