mkII 5 speed gearbox

[transitgeoff]

sierra 5 speed box input shaft is shorter than the Transit and dosent reach the spigot bearing so wont last long!the Transit gear selector and tail section will fit straight on and the box will fit but not for long!!!

[bortaf]

anyone ever put a car box in using the origional stick (car one) cos i have somone who has a 2.3 in a Mk1 and wants a manual box off me from a cortina to put in it (auto box shot).

[Gunslinger]

I take it you only need to change the floor on a Mk2? i changed me Mk3 recovery from type 9 to MT75 and just cut a new hole for the gear stick (comes out the other side of the box).

yeah..... something like that, the mt75 kicks the gearstick straight from the centre of the box and the original (and type 9 too i think) is offset to the N/S.

You also need a small amount of the bulkhead panel, unless you drill out all the spot welds around the joint of the tranny tunnel and the bulkhead then trim your original one to the new profile ... personally i would do what i did and take a good 8 inches of the bulkhead too .... that way you know you have the correct profile to accomodate the new box.

also you will notice after youve cut the pieces out that the mt75 floor panel is quite a bit higher as the box is a bigger in the height department

plus dont forget the crossmember !!

[Luke]

I fitted a MT75 into a mk1 and did no bulkhead mods - i think it depends on the engine position!
I once had 3 mk1's all fiited with Di's parked next to each other the engine was in a completely different position on all 3 height and front/back!!!

[madmark]

thats a ford for you!

[Gunslinger]

thats very odd ... as all the early g/boxes i have seen have had the gearstick offset to the left, you sure it hadn't been fiddled with or was maybe an auto originally (did they do those)

as for the bulk head and transmission tunnel height, i did wonder if these would be big enough .... it looked close, but wasn't game to try it

the different positions will depend on a couple of things, some early mk1's (i think the york diesels) used engine mounts right up the front, by the spring hanger and to fit a later motor you had to make out riggers or mod the chassis legs, the gearbox cross member will make a difference in the angle of the engine (in combination with the engine mounts) ... mine actually sits at more of an angle i think, cant really remember, do remember thinking ... hhmmm, if i was using the original fan i would have to look at the positioning in relation to the radiator, but as i am going to use 2 electric ones from a Peugeot 405 don't need to worry about it.
Engine mounts ... and these are wide and varied in versions ... as always with ford will make a difference, also because of the "v" profile you have to be sure all is lined up straight before setting all the weight down and tightening up .... also never fully tighten them until the engine is sitting free or you'll screw the rubber sections by placing them under side tension all of the time.

ONE BIG THING I DID FORGET IN THE LIST OF THINGS YOU NEED --

The mt75 box is ally, you must get the engine mounts/supports that have the extra bar back to the gearbox .... or you'll smash the bell housing

[FredTransit]

I fitted a MT75 into a mk1 and did no bulkhead mods - i think it depends on the engine position!
I once had 3 mk1's all fiited with Di's parked next to each other the engine was in a completely different position on all 3 height and front/back!!!

Now why am I not suprised about this? Bear in mind these are conversions, though and it all depends where the person who converted them puts the engine. None of ours have got any mods to the bulkhead, but the factory (orig. 4 spead) diesel hits the heater in 1st.

[bortaf]

[quote="Gunslinger"]thats very odd ... as all the early g/boxes i have seen have had the gearstick offset to the left, you sure it hadn't been fiddled with or was maybe an auto originally (did they do those)

Way Way back when i was nipper me mum used to have a Mk1 LWB tranny mini bus , york diesel and that was auto.
Had the gear selector on the dash next to the clocks.

[simgy]

"ONE BIG THING I DID FORGET IN THE LIST OF THINGS YOU NEED --

The mt75 box is ally, you must get the engine mounts/supports that have the extra bar back to the gearbox .... or you'll smash the bell housing"

erm dont think i have these fitted dont think ive ever seen any either are they just on the di`s or something

[madmark]

luke how strange even on mk2,s i have had to cut floor to fit the mt75 and my mk3 has overdrive so that would need the floor cutting for the mt75! your mk1 ,s are very strange!

[FredTransit]

luke how strange even on mk2,s i have had to cut floor to fit the mt75 and my mk3 has overdrive so that would need the floor cutting for the mt75! your mk1 ,s are very strange!

I agree Mark, none of our MT75s went straight in! All 6 of em! The minibus has OD, and is in the same place as the 4 speed, you can see the 'cut here' line on the mat still, where the LHD box/gear lever comes out, and also the 5 speed!

[Luke]

I cut the gearbox hole but did no bulthead mods!!!

I'll get you a picture to prove it if you want!!!

[FredTransit]

I cut the gearbox hole but did no bulthead mods!!!

I'll get you a picture to prove it if you want!!!

That's what Mark said. I think we have got hold of the wrong end of the stck, thinking you meant no mods at all.

[Luke]

You also need a small amount of the bulkhead panel, what i did and take a good 8 inches of the bulkhead too

I fitted a MT75 into a mk1 and did no bulkhead mods

[FredTransit]

You also need a small amount of the bulkhead panel, what i did and take a good 8 inches of the bulkhead too

I fitted a MT75 into a mk1 and did no bulkhead mods

Right, gotcha. You cut the floor, but not the bulkhead, like Ginslinger said.