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Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby luckyphil100 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:10 am

Hi to all and thanks for any assistance in advance.

We are based in Qld Aus and have a 2002 VH 90 horsepower diesel minibus that we have converted from the semi auto durashift transmission to a full manual.

All of the mechanical side of the conversion is complete but we are having trouble with sorting out the ecu. The vehicle starts and runs but will not rev.

From info in other posts here, others that have done the same conversion have had the original ecu in their vehicles reprogrammed at Ford and problem sorted.

So we completed the mechanical side, disconnected the auto computer behind the radio and took the vehicle to our local Ford dealer (3 weeks ago) and the first thing they said was that Ford can not reprogram the original ecu, it requires an ecu from a manual.

We made some more enquires and were advised that we needed a manual ecu from a 125 horsepower Transit as they are easy to wipe and re program as a 90 hp manual. So we purchased the 125hp ecu and fitted the replacement ecu and now the Ford dealer say that they still can't code it.

They are saying now point blank that they can't wipe an ecu and put a new map onto it.

We suspected that they really aren't to sure what they are doing when now they are saying that we need to replace the gear box with an original manual to fix the ecu problem! As the Ford dealer is saying that they can't wipe and remap an ecu, we also asked them if they would speak to Ford technical for assistance, but they basically aren't interested and said no, they won't contact technical for help.


Anyway, what we are hoping to find out is basically any info that might help to get this ecu issue sorted and back on the road.

So, everything in regards to the conversion is done and we have a choice of the original durashift 90hp ecu or a 120hp ecu from an original manual to use.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby ake » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:40 am

It can be done, there was another Australian on here who had it done, by Ford
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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby Telford Transit » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:37 pm

You can't program a 125ps ecu to a 90ps pump, thats probably the trouble they are having

If you could get hold of a manual 90ps ecu and matching key transponder(chip) the fuel pump on your vehicle could be coded into them without going to ford by any garage with appropriate diagnostic tool ie snap-on solus/verus

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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby luckyphil100 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:58 am

Thanks for the replys guys, we'll get a hold of a 90hp manual ecu and give that a try.
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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby Dan T » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:08 am

Get a manual 90ps ecu making sure its the early one (non can-bus)
Then ford can reprogramme it.

They are right you can't reprogramme an asm ecu to work manual or vice versa.
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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby luckyphil100 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:31 pm

Dan T wrote:Get a manual 90ps ecu making sure its the early one (non can-bus)
Then ford can reprogramme it.

They are right you can't reprogramme an asm ecu to work manual or vice versa.


Thanks for that Dan, do you happen to know what year range (non canbus) would be?

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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby Telford Transit » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:26 pm

Pre 2003 with the mileage displayed non digital
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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby luckyphil100 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:49 pm

Telford Transit wrote:Pre 2003 with the mileage displayed non digital


Thanks for that, much appreciated.

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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby APH » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:34 pm

Dan T wrote:They are right you can't reprogramme an asm ecu to work manual or vice versa.


I can't understnd why :? The ecu is nothing diffrent between the two models, and loads of people have done it no problem. Provided the ASM control module is removed, an the wiring is finished correctly, you just disable the ASM function in the ECU and it will function quite normally as a manual van :wink:
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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby Dan T » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:57 pm

APH wrote:
Dan T wrote:They are right you can't reprogramme an asm ecu to work manual or vice versa.


I can't understnd why :? The ecu is nothing diffrent between the two models, and loads of people have done it no problem. Provided the ASM control module is removed, an the wiring is finished correctly, you just disable the ASM function in the ECU and it will function quite normally as a manual van :wink:

And how do you tell it its now manual ? I can't find anywhere in ids to do so.
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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby Frag » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:06 pm

You need the calibration number of a 90ps manual van with the same instrument cluster fitted,
Then goin in with ids as tho module is blank,I will re flash It to latest level software,
Enter axle ratio and tyre size and you away.

If the module is not original to van the keys will need coding in.
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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby Altransit » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:14 pm

Frag wrote:You need the calibration number of a 90ps manual van with the same instrument cluster fitted,

So if there is someone on here with that very van, they can PM the calibration number to the OP, and it can be sorted without changing his ECU :?:

Sounds good, sadly mine won't do :(
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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby Frag » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:50 pm

Yeah,
I have the calibration number for the module I have which is a '52 plate 90ps rwd so that would do it,
Sounds like the dealer he's taken it to arent willing (don't know how) to re-flash his module.
I did this job last month on a later van with hybrid cluster,
Having the correct calibration number makes life a lot easier...
Shouldn't t need to change module,i didn't !
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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby Dan T » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:35 pm

Frag wrote:Yeah,
I have the calibration number for the module I have which is a '52 plate 90ps rwd so that would do it,
Sounds like the dealer he's taken it to arent willing (don't know how) to re-flash his module.
I did this job last month on a later van with hybrid cluster,
Having the correct calibration number makes life a lot easier...
Shouldn't t need to change module,i didn't !

Interesting...
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Re: Durashift semi auto to manual ecu conversion problem

Postby Dan T » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:46 pm

Frag wrote:Yeah,
I have the calibration number for the module I have which is a '52 plate 90ps rwd so that would do it,
Sounds like the dealer he's taken it to arent willing (don't know how) to re-flash his module.
I did this job last month on a later van with hybrid cluster,
Having the correct calibration number makes life a lot easier...
Shouldn't t need to change module,i didn't !

Hi Mate,

Sounds like this could sort my issue too if I install the manual ecu and reflash the asm software on it ?
In through module programming like programming a new one ?
Do I do a manual select at the start by entering the software number ?

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