Transit 2010 diesel 2.4 mk 7 hard to start in morning

[WulWendy]

Hi having problems starting van in the morning. When it eventually starts-yesterday took 56 turns off the key-theres clouds of black smoke. It will run fine the rest of the day. Replaced battery, replaced diesel filter housing unit and filter and new hoses. Still had trouble so bought a tin of easy start which made very little difference apart from the fact when it did start there was no black smoke. Could this be aproblem with diesel running back and causing it not to start in the morning? Any help would be very much appreciated as im running out of options-Cheers

[Jim Archer]

Diesel filter full?

Glowplugs doing their thing?

Jim

[WulWendy]

Hi Jim
Ive spoke to a mechanic and im thinking of putting in a 12v pump to pump the diesel up-no fault codes with glow plugs-dont know if the diesel filter is full im not sure how to check that-sorry this is my first transit van and really dont know anything about them so any help at all would be much appreciated
Cheers
Wul

[knobby1]

Hi Jim
Ive spoke to a mechanic and im thinking of putting in a 12v pump to pump the diesel up-no fault codes with glow plugs-dont know if the diesel filter is full im not sure how to check that-sorry this is my first transit van and really dont know anything about them so any help at all would be much appreciated
Cheers
Wul

Fitting a 12v pump will just mask the problem. Pop the filter off after it's been sitting overnight and see if it's full or empty....if it's empty you have an air ingress leak in the low pressure side of the fuel system and the fuel is siphoning back to tank....this is why it is hard to start in the morning, takes a while to suck the fuel back up to the pump.

Lord Knobrot

[eskimodoodle]

Turn Ignoition on and leave it for 30-40 seconds or so before trying to start it .

May help

[knobby1]

Turn Ignoition on and leave it for 30-40 seconds or so before trying to start it .

May help

Why...?? Euro-4's don't have a lift pump.

Lord Knobrot

[tibsy]

Turn Ignoition on and leave it for 30-40 seconds or so before trying to start it .

May help

Why...?? Euro-4's don't have a lift pump.

Lord Knobrot

To give glowplugs time to do their job(if they work)

[knobby1]

Turn Ignoition on and leave it for 30-40 seconds or so before trying to start it .

May help

Why...?? Euro-4's don't have a lift pump.

Lord Knobrot

To give glowplugs time to do their job(if they work)

Takes less than 5 seconds to heat the glow plugs.

Lord Knobrot

[tibsy]

Glowplug technology must have improved over the years i suppose! Seem to recall some vehicles the recommendation was to wait 20-30 secs.
I still do even though i think mine are knackered(daren`t attempt to remove them)

[knobby1]

Glowplug technology must have improved over the years i suppose! Seem to recall some vehicles the recommendation was to wait 20-30 secs.
I still do even though i think mine are knackered(daren`t attempt to remove them)

Most Transits don't really need glow plugs to start these days...unless you're in constant freezing sub-zero temps. They're usually there to help with cold engine emissions and will stay on for varying periods of time depending on the ambient temperatures.

Lord Knobrot