Mk6 Cranks, pumps diesel, no ignition

[mtnz]

2002 MK6 Cranks, Pumps diesel to injectors, doesn't ignite.
No error codes.
Fuel injector pump recently replaced, lines bled.
Auto sparky inspected PCM no signs of any problems.
Ford have reprogrammed PATS to ensure clean Comms between PCM and injector pump module.
PCM details uploaded

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Any hints?

https://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=kyc236

[metalworker0]

2002 - 23 years old, what's the mileage, if its high do a compression test.

check also the valve timing .. as there could be something wrong with the chain

all the best.mark

[mtnz]

Ok thanks any idea on how we can check the valve timing... Around 300k

[metalworker0]

need engine size ..
and if fwd or rwd

and at 300k you probably need a timing chain change

and you do need to do the compression test to rule that out

and i dont know what that link is in your first post .. security check ? looks too dodgy to me .. i dont give my email away

all the best.mark

[mtnz]

Ok thanks I'll do a compression test. The link isn't dodgy it contains all the details on the van. It's a New Zealand link so you've probably not seen it before. Shouldn't have been any request for an email from the site, but possibly it happened since you are probably not in NZ.

Anyway thanks Mate such a long drama stretching over several years now.

[metalworker0]

ok 2.5 litre , auto 3 speed transmission , says two axles ... does that mean 4 wheel drive?

also a slow starter motor can stop these things firing up

and when you said 300k i thought miles... so not so high

all the best.mark

[mtnz]

Brand new starter motor now, still no attempt to fire, its actually a 5 speed with ASM.

Bloody annoying as I know the engine ran great prior to switching out the fuel injector pump and that there's no error codes, that it pumps diesel fine. The PCM has been reprogrammed with the fuel module by Ford.

It seems so close to firing but nothing anyone does works

[knobby1]

ok 2.5 litre , auto 3 speed transmission , says two axles ... does that mean 4 wheel drive?

also a slow starter motor can stop these things firing up

and when you said 300k i thought miles... so not so high

all the best.mark

No such animal as a Mk6 2.5 litre 3 speed auto.

Lord Knobrot

[metalworker0]

ok 2.5 litre , auto 3 speed transmission , says two axles ... does that mean 4 wheel drive?

also a slow starter motor can stop these things firing up

and when you said 300k i thought miles... so not so high

all the best.mark

No such animal as a Mk6 2.5 litre 3 speed auto.

Lord Knobrot

that's what it said in his link , also said 63KW! which is 85 hp ... is that correct

all the best.mark

[mtnz]

Yes it is incorrect in the official link Lord Knobrrot, it's a five speed with ASM.

[knobby1]

Yes it is incorrect in the official link Lord Knobrrot, it's a five speed with ASM.

It's not a 2.5 either...nor is it 85hp. The Mk6/Mk7 2.4 engine was never released as an 85ps.

The Mk6 ASM gearbox machines were all 2.4 90ps with what is essentially a normal MT75 5 speed box with auto clutch and auto shift mechanism bolted to it....and they were never fitted with a 3speed automatic gearbox.

I don't know where these "CarJam" places get their info from.

Lord Knobrot

[mtnz]

Back of a Weetbix packet most likely. Probably only the VIN/ Chassis is correct. Right now Im on the verge of having to sell this perfectly fine van as a dolls house because everything works but nothing actually goes and noone knows here in NZ actually knows much about them it seems, especially Ford. Buy it for 30k, Spend 8k on it, sell it for about 10k even though I have no idea whats actually wrong with it.

Hard to believe that they designed a van to pump diesel but not actually go. You'd think they would have prevented it pumping if there was an issue and if it was pumping fuel it would fire.

I'd love to get rid of this god forsaken engine altogether and put something simple and reliable in it instead of this mass of spaghetti cabling and overly complicated fuel pump.

Just keep the ASM and flog it because the ASM has never missed a beat despite everyone telling me it would fail, it never did. How easy is it to take out the ASM without damage?

[knobby1]

Back of a Weetbix packet most likely. Probably only the VIN/ Chassis is correct. Right now Im on the verge of having to sell this perfectly fine van as a dolls house because everything works but nothing actually goes and noone knows here in NZ actually knows much about them it seems, especially Ford. Buy it for 30k, Spend 8k on it, sell it for about 10k even though I have no idea whats actually wrong with it.

Hard to believe that they designed a van to pump diesel but not actually go. You'd think they would have prevented it pumping if there was an issue and if it was pumping fuel it would fire.

I'd love to get rid of this god forsaken engine altogether and put something simple and reliable in it instead of this mass of spaghetti cabling and overly complicated fuel pump.

Just keep the ASM and flog it because the ASM has never missed a beat despite everyone telling me it would fail, it never did. How easy is it to take out the ASM without damage?

Fuel injector pressure has to be pretty high and timed correctly for it to actually run, these engines run up to ~1600bar, (23200psi) fuel pressure. If there is any air in the high pressure side of the system, it will never run.

What code reader are you using..?? Mk6 is "NOT" OBD-II compliant so most of the newer readers won't work. You need Forscan.

Lord Knobrot

[mtnz]

Ford have used whatever their system is, and Ive used Forscan, others have used whatever theyve used. No error codes.

[knobby1]

Ford have used whatever their system is, and Ive used Forscan, others have used whatever theyve used. No error codes.

If you're getting no codes with Forscan, it must just be air in the system. They can be a pig to bleed.

Lord Knobrot