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Battery Warning light problem, on my MK3

Postby WhiteVanMan » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:24 pm

Well here is a question for you all, I have a mark 3 tranny, (V Reg) and have a strange problem

Ok, when I sit stationery with the engine just ticking over NO battery light when I put the revs on or move away and the light begins to just glow, more revs or driving faster and the light is brightly light. :(

Only just started on this way home tonight, I think it has to be charging prob,

Just thought you clever people might have a better idea,????

Thanks for your help,

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Postby Gunslinger » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:02 am

disconnct the alternator and see what you get (should be no light at anytime) this is just to eliminate anything else as the problem, and isolate it to the alternator, after that, my first point of call would be the brushes, although it could just as likely be the regulator pack, both of these you might be able to change for considerably less than a new alternator, if you do the brushes be sure the commutator is not scored or it will wear out your new brushes faster than it should, lightly smooth it with fine wet and dry
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Postby tranny van man » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:55 pm

my mate had the same problem he just got an alternater from scrap yard for £20 and that cured it
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Postby FredTransit » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:50 pm

This sounds like the alternator overcharging, and is potentially dangerous. If you put something on like the heater and the light gets dimmer, that could be the case. This can cause a wiring fire, and should be checked ASAP. Replacing the alterantor, even with a sound second hand one will cure it.
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Postby WhiteVanMan » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:54 pm

OK thanks for the advice, yes i think it has to be the alternater as there is not really alot else it could be,

I will have a better look and check the voltage maybe tomorrow if the wether is ok,

Thanks Again for all your help,

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Postby Gunslinger » Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:55 pm

a little understanding of how that light works will help you understand the issues involved, so here's the basics :)

the ignition circuit supplies +12v from the switch to the alternator, via the bulb, when the alternator is not turning that wire will be connected to earth (-) inside the alternator therefore the circuit is completed and the light comes on, now, when the alternator is spinning (and this is working on the principal that modern alternators are all 'self-exciting" and don't require a separate +12v supply before producing an output) the alternator will supply +12v to the connector the bulb wire is connected to, thus breaking the earth (-) line and breaking the circuit, so the bulb goes out, now if the alternator is not spinning quickly enough, the alternator will still give a connection to earth but with more resistance on the line, thus making the bulb dimmer(just like wiring 2 bulbs in series), this will also be the case if the brushes wear and become intermittent in their contact inside the alternator, and also if the regulator pack starts to die it will "leak" the connection to earth thus making the light come on dim or intermittently, these effects can be seen much better with a volt meter and amp meter fitted to the circuit.

it should have nothing to do with over charging, unless the regulator pack dies on that side of the circuit as well, and then simply keeps charging the battery when it doesn't need it, this can happen on its own without the light coming on, or the light can come on without the battery over charging, no way to tell this without having the alternator thoroughly checked, and this is not worth it money wise

short answer .... buy a new alternator, or change the regulator (diode) pack and brushes :)
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Postby WhiteVanMan » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:12 pm

SORTED! well its a bit silly really, and it saved me buying a new alternator

OK this was the falut, where the two small cables plug into the alternator the little blue wire had a brake just right near the plug whch connects to the alternator!
so haveing cut and re-solderd the wire then seling with heat srink is now fine! NO LIGHT :D and im happy, 8)

I only found this out as i went to unplug the plug from the alternator and the blue wire just come away freely

Strange but True,,

But thanks for your advice and keep it up!

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Postby Gunslinger » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:32 pm

result :)
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