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Mk2 front lwb/swb axle swap

Postby Luke » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:04 pm

ok chaps and fred :lol: quick question!! :D

I can get a front axle from a mk2 lwb single rear wheel (6stud)

will the standard hubs swap with it to convert it from 6 stud to 5 stud??
without splitting it at the kingpins??? ie swap it by undoing the 5 bolts with tab washers on??
and can i keep the brake discs and calipers from the lwb axle???
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Postby FredTransit » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:31 pm

I will have to give this one some thought, one thing though. The Long Wheel Base are most commonly Twin Wheel, and six stud, though sometimes single wheel and therefore five stud. I don't think that even the LWB single wheel had six studs, what did you mean?
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Postby Luke » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:36 pm

Its quite a rare one but its a 6 stud front axle that fits single wheel style wheels (the ones without a massive offset)!!
i presume its a different width to a normal one to account for the wheels!!
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Postby FredTransit » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:46 pm

Luke wrote:Its quite a rare one but its a 6 stud front axle that fits single wheel style wheels (the ones without a massive offset)!!
i presume its a different width to a normal one to account for the wheels!!


You got me there, I always thought that htey just ran ordinary single wheel five studs, never seen them (6 stud) on the Mk 2 as an option.
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Postby Luke » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:50 pm

you even get em on mk1's :) like i say there very rare this van has got them and its not even a lwb - even rarer!! :D
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Postby Luke » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:41 pm

Ok i'll answer my own question!!!

Yes you can!!!* :D

* providing the front wheel bearings on the mk1 and mk2 are the same!!
They seem ok though!!

I'd even not be suprised if you can convert a twin wheel to 5 stud using the same method!! although the 4pot brakes might get in the way!! :? ill have to look into that one, as if they didn't it would also be a good brake upgrade!! (for when i fit a 24V cossy!! :roll: :lol: )

Im also confident that the front hubs can be modded to accept different PCD's as in this thread!!! 8)
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Postby madmark » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:49 pm

luke you are correct mate the vans were called 100L and on the mk1 they were called 125, on the mk3 they are 150 ,why are you useing that type axle??????? :?
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Postby Luke » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:53 pm

madmark wrote:why are you useing that type axle??????? :?

mate my kingpins were worn v.bad i had shimmed them too many times!!
this axle is mint low milage!!!! it will do till i go ifs!!!
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Postby FredTransit » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:17 pm

Luke wrote:
madmark wrote:why are you useing that type axle??????? :?

mate my kingpins were worn v.bad i had shimmed them too many times!!
this axle is mint low milage!!!! it will do till i go ifs!!!


Why not just go Mk2/3 in the short term, if only to tide you over til the ifs. We put a Mk2 on our Mk1, complete with disc brakes. It just bolted straight up, with a little change to the brake pipes, at least on the LWB TW, not sure about the SWB cos wev'e never done anything like this on one.
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Postby Luke » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:23 pm

You got me thinking there!! i think my mk1 axle was actually off a mk2 :?
It has disk brakes!! On a 1971 diesel 4108(origanally) would that be disks or drums??

but any way swap is done and im good for a few more mot's yet!! :D
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Postby madmark » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:30 pm

in them days mate drums! you know about you axles i need to fit discs to mine in the futeure will they fit on my axle or have i got to change it?????? :?:
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Postby Luke » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:39 pm

madmark wrote:in them days mate drums! you know about you axles i need to fit discs to mine in the futeure will they fit on my axle or have i got to change it?????? :?:

mate best thing you can do is go full mk3 TW front axle swap!! :D
especially if you can find a power steering van!! :D
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Postby FredTransit » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:19 pm

Luke wrote:
madmark wrote:in them days mate drums! you know about you axles i need to fit discs to mine in the futeure will they fit on my axle or have i got to change it?????? :?:

mate best thing you can do is go full mk3 TW front axle swap!! :D
especially if you can find a power steering van!! :D


Ya beat me to it Luke! I would go the whole axle, then the bearings will be easier to find. But at least Makr's shouldn't have too much kingpin wear!
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Postby Luke » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:45 pm

FredTransit wrote:Ya beat me to it Luke! I would go the whole axle, then the bearings will be easier to find. But at least Makr's shouldn't have too much kingpin wear!

yeah mabe a mk3 axle would have more kingpin wear than his!!

What miles from new do they do before kingpins need replacing :?:

then again if i was mark i'd do ifs swap :wink: :lol:
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Postby FredTransit » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:24 pm

Luke wrote:then again if i was mark i'd do ifs swap :wink: :lol:


Please god no!!! Mark I think that you should leave her well alone, as she is so nice and so perfect!
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