Fitting Power Steering to Non-Power Steering Model

[fitzy]

Hi Guys

Has anyone fitted a power steering rack and associated parts to a van that didn't have it fitted originally? I have a 1997 100 model without power steering and would like to fit it. Is it a hard job or just a case of bolting all the parts on and away you go? Any advice will be appreciated.

Fitzy

[MrMPuk]

Should just be a case of bolting it all on once you've got all the bits.

[100ps_drw_hicube]

if you need a pump i have one for sale

[ovlov]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TRANSIT-POWER-STE ... dZViewItem



This is on ebay

[fitzy]

Thanks Ovlov

I'm now watching this auction, sellers got a bit of cheek asking for extra 4% if you use Pay-Pal to pay for it, which is against Pay-Pal's "Terms & Conditions". But hopefully the seller might except cash if i win it.

Cheers

Fitzy

[AndyG]

If you turn up with the cash I'm sure he'll dribble
Also see if he'll let you 'buy it now' as no bids
As for fitting- no probs. the only real problem I had was cleaning the threads in the engine block for the three bolts that hold the pump bracket.
They tend to go rusty 'cause there's never been anything in there before plenty of WD and try the bolts first without the bracket.
Hope this helps

[MarkM]

Thanks Ovlov

I'm now watching this auction, sellers got a bit of cheek asking for extra 4% if you use Pay-Pal to pay for it, which is against Pay-Pal's "Terms & Conditions". But hopefully the seller might except cash if i win it.

Cheers

Fitzy

It's only against ebays/Paypal terms and conditions if the seller doesn't take credit cards (many sellers have a buisness as well as the 'private' seller account)...Paypal funded by a credit card doesn't count (this is the excuse often used) if the seller has a buisness outside of ebay that takes credit cards then he/she can charge for their use this includes Paypal, the fee/surcharge of 4% is over the real charge of 3.5% or is it 3.75%...I had a seller do this to me recently and it was only because his carriage was low that I paid for it, otherwise I would have reported him and not paid.

[Aquanaut]

I got a good second hand unit from Bridge Van dismantlers in Derry, Northern Ireland .
There was fierce play in my old one and it failed its DOE test.

It cost 82 pounds (50 pounds + 20 delivery + Vat) and was delivered straiight to my door overnight.
Thats service, didn't waste hours scrounging for one.
Ford Garage in Dublin quoted me 900 euro plus vat, always worth calling Ford for a giggle. (':o').

I had it changed in 1 hour. Its just held on by two lugs on the front Wheel Chassis.
Paid 150 euro for a reconditioned Pump last year also.
Hope this helps.

[fitzy]

MarkM

Under the "Terms & Conditions" of all credit/debit card merchant accounts you are not allowed to levy a surcharge or minimum spend amount on any credit/debit card transactions. I run my own business selling computer consumables & accessories (http://www.pc-tronics.co.uk) and have the facility to accept cards through a portable terminal and you cannot set any of the above conditions up as part of you sales. Unfortunately if someone wants to spend £1 and use a credit/debit card to pay we have to accept this a legal means of payment. (as long as the funds are there).

HTH

Fitzy

[MarkM]

Well you are losing out as you ARE allowed to make the charge...check with your bank You are justified in passing the costs on to the customer...doing it by stealth is what is against the terms and conditions. If you still get repeat customers is unlikely but IT IS LEGAL...go through the ebay allowances they give the reasoning that UK sellers are allowed to do this due to english law but ONLY if they use a biz of their own (or anothers is unclear) but clearly laid out in the ebay terms and conditions.
Ever tried to actually use a Diners Club Card or American Express in the UK, either people don't take it or they charge you 5%, many have stopped doing this but the banking system still charges you higher rates for taking Amex...this is the real reason why many stores do not take it.

Minimum spend is often seen in stores regarding cheques and by default credit cards, Retail is "invitation to treat" meaning in simple terms you can charge what you like at the till, but switch selling IS illegal.


From ebay

Permitted:

A seller can add a surcharge to the final price of the item in four instances:

Credit and Debit Card Payments - Surcharging is permitted where sellers accept credit or debit cards as a means of payment for an item purchased on eBay. Such sellers will have merchant accounts with a bank or credit card company. These sellers may not pass on to the buyer a charge greater than the amount of the commission payable by the seller to the bank processing that credit or debit card payment. In other words, sellers may recoup the charges incurred as a direct consequence of accepting the credit or debit card, but no more. Please note that under English law, sellers have a legal right to pass onto the buyer the charges incurred for a credit or debit card transaction. However, this right does not apply to electronic money services. Where a credit or debit card is used to purchase electronic money to fund a transaction made via an electronic money service such as the ones listed above, this is not a credit or debit card transaction, but an electronic money service transaction.


Not permitted:

Electronic Money Services: Sellers who accept electronic money services as a means of payment for an item purchased on eBay may not impose a surcharge. Electronic money services include, but are not limited to, services such as PayPal, Nochex, FastPay or Moneybookers.

Now this is the part most people cite as the reasoning for it not being allowed....well the point is stretched to include Paypal because of the part above but only if they CAN take credit cards...if you use your credit card to put the funds into your own paypal account and THEN pay...then it becomes electronic money and NOT allowed but just click on the pay button and go through the steps and then it becomes allowable for the seller to place the charge on the bill. The way around it is to state on your auctions that you will only accept Paypal funds directly NOT funds via Paypal funded by a credit card....it shows as a credit card transfer on your Paypal statement so YOU as a seller know what the customer has done.

[fitzy]

I'm with Lloydstsb Cardnet and i'm just going by what they told me over the phone and by what it says in the literature they have sent me about accepting cards, and the charge for Amex for me is only 3.9% + 3p. But i will check with them about what you have said incase i have mis-interperated what i read in the manual and what they told me over the phone. But as you can understand i'm only going by what i've been told.

Thanks for your advice and what you quoted in your post, will let you know what the bank says.

Fitzy

[MarkM]

I'm with Lloydstsb Cardnet and i'm just going by what they told me over the phone and by what it says in the literature they have sent me about accepting cards, and the charge for Amex for me is only 3.9% + 3p. But i will check with them about what you have said incase i have mis-interperated what i read in the manual and what they told me over the phone. But as you can understand i'm only going by what i've been told.

Thanks for your advice and what you quoted in your post, will let you know what the bank says.

Fitzy

I do understand...I have many years in retail and had to explain the charges thing to a friend who was concerend about taking Paypal online due to the charges but when I pointed out that the 'loss' on the sale was the same as the 'loss' he made in his shop when taking credit cards he was convinced. Many retailers forget these costs as Visa and Mastercard have become accepted forms of sales..all would prefer cash but forget why they would prefer it...Sounds like you have a reasonable deal with Amex but over the course of a year that little extra 0.4% and the 3p will add up...if you are in a hight volume biz with also high cost items for sale you will eventually say "up yours" to Amex as it will be hurting profits (depending on your mark up )
Take a look at RBS and their charging structure as I think you might be rather surprised, especially with the machinery costs.

[fitzy]

MarkM

Have checked with Lloydstsb and they said that their literature needs updating and that what you said was correct, i can charge a fee or add a surcharge to credit card payments only but it must not exceed what i'm charged, but i cannot charge a fee or surcharge for debit card transactions at all, plus i cannot stipulate a minimum spend for either card transactions. Have only just signed up to Cardnet so can't even think about changing yet.

By the way back to the original topic, i got the power steering kit for £65 all in, collected it last night, he even had the mounting bracket for the block, jsut need the long bolt and the adjusting bolt for mounting the pump to the bracket.

If the weathers good over the next few days will have a go at fitting it all and probably have to improvise wit t pump to bracket mounting bolts, should keep me busy for a few hours/days over the easter weekend.

Cheers

Fitzy

[fitzy]

The guy i bought the power steering kit left the add running on Ebay and it reached £157 +£25 P&P. Either he has another kit available or someones gonna be an unhappy winning bidder, cos when i collected it he said it was the only one he had and he'd remove the listing. He must be kicking himself now cos i only gave him £65 for it.

Fitzy

[AndyG]

Well done that was a steal
Is it on yet