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SIX YEAR ANTI COROSION WARANTY ?

Postby AndyG » Fri May 05, 2006 12:12 am

Not worth the paper :roll: :!:

MK5 June 2000 W reg

Van was originally owned by Ford's themselves.

Purchased the van from Ford's and presumed that I would at least have this waranty transfered/remaining as the mechanical one runs out 12 months after first registration :roll: fair enough :!:

Front wheel arches (both sides) now showing obvious corosion from the inside coming out :!:

Visit dealer as requested and dealer claims that vehicle has had previous paintwork/bodywork repair and therefore guarantee is void :!: :x

Complain again to Fords and was asked to take van elseware for second opinion :)
That dealer couldn't be sure so I asked him does it look like it's had panel replacement or just paint :?:

He said it's had paint but couldn't be sure about the panels :( went on to say that it would be a very big and expensive repair as the door apertures and wings on both sides would need to be replaced :shock: :!:

Now every one knows that these vans are famous for rust in their arches :!:
I confronted Fords again and put it to them that as they owned the van, any repairs would have been done by them and as such should not invalidate the waranty :!:as the repairs should have been carried to their own high standards :wink:

Well they finally got back to me and said that as they don't have any records of repairs to my van and that the van has had a repair your waranty is void :(

Anyone else had this sort of thing from Fords :?:

Can anyone suggest another avenue :?: apart from an angle grinder and bondo :!: as I can't weld :(
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Postby MrMPuk » Fri May 05, 2006 1:50 am

I'd learn to weld, you do own a Transit after all!
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Postby Transitwalla » Fri May 05, 2006 9:47 am

Hi, I dont think Fraud were ever going to stump up for the repairs :( as records have a habit of going missing between departments / computers at the most inopertune times :( In the short term fill'em with bondo . . just while you learn to weld :) or take the expensive route and change your van for a newer model when the arches bubble through :wink:
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Postby AndyG » Fri May 05, 2006 9:57 am

The arches are bubbling through nicely thank you :lol:

I did once buy a welder :D but the horror stories and working on your own frightened me off to the point that I sold it to the welder I had employed :lol:

And while he was welding for me, sure enough water neede to be used :shock:

I think I'll leave the welding, at least for now :D
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new front wings and wheel arches on 96 smiley

Postby john leeman » Fri May 05, 2006 12:39 pm

ONE OF MY CUSTOMERS HAS JUST REPLACED BOTH FRONT WINGS AND ARCHES £65 IN PARTS £320 LABOUR AND SPRAYING,£15 PAINT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOOD.
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Postby noiseman » Fri May 05, 2006 1:34 pm

Can anyone suggest another avenue apart from an angle grinder and bondo as I can't weld


How about trading standards?
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Postby madmark » Fri May 05, 2006 2:04 pm

the problem is that you are the second owner if you had been the first they might have done something about it! :( they will rigle out of it however they can! there must be loads and loads of smiley drivers haveing this problem! :(
i doubt you will get anywere mate as they would use the excuse that they dont know the history of the van before you bourt it! :(
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Postby AndyG » Fri May 05, 2006 7:05 pm

madmark wrote:the problem is that you are the second owner if you had been the first they might have done something about it! :( they will rigle out of it however they can! there must be loads and loads of smiley drivers haveing this problem! :(
i doubt you will get anywere mate as they would use the excuse that they dont know the history of the van before you bourt it! :(


I do agree with you :D But it was them that owned it before me :!: :?:
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Re: new front wings and wheel arches on 96 smiley

Postby AndyG » Fri May 05, 2006 7:10 pm

john leeman wrote:ONE OF MY CUSTOMERS HAS JUST REPLACED BOTH FRONT WINGS AND ARCHES £65 IN PARTS £320 LABOUR AND SPRAYING,£15 PAINT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOOD.


That's an unbelieviable good price :!:

I doubt I could find someone reliable enough near me for that sort of money :!:

The dealer was talking £2500+ :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Fri May 05, 2006 7:31 pm

we use a guy in littlehampton he charges around the £400 mark to fit new front wings and arches and paint them etc and does a ace job!! 8) 8)
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Postby oldhenry » Fri May 05, 2006 10:01 pm

I have had a 1991 Escort- from new. At 5.5 years i see a bubble on rear wing!
Back to dealer- have independant assessor - the RAC , result
a new rear quarter panel, a very large repair and loos of profit for Fraud.
so they do pay up when cornered, but you have to corner them.
You need independant assessor to show no repair has been done- try RAC.
Then you can go to court over it.
Worth fighting?
Or of course buy a VW next time :D . 12 years bodywork , but you won't need it 8)
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Fri May 05, 2006 10:04 pm

oldhenry wrote:Or of course buy a VW next time :D . 12 years bodywork , but you won't need it 8)


ye youll just need a shed full of spare engines :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby AndyG » Fri May 05, 2006 10:24 pm

oldhenry wrote:I have had a 1991 Escort- from new. At 5.5 years i see a bubble on rear wing!
Back to dealer- have independant assessor - the RAC , result
a new rear quarter panel, a very large repair and loos of profit for Fraud.
so they do pay up when cornered, but you have to corner them.
You need independant assessor to show no repair has been done- try RAC.
Then you can go to court over it.
Worth fighting?
Or of course buy a VW next time :D . 12 years bodywork , but you won't need it 8)


They measured the paint thickness and I could also see that from his readings the paint was thicker (we are talking microns though)

And yes an older P**sat shares the drive and other friends and collegues have these german front wheel drive things that are older and newer and also have damage down to the metal and still won't rust :!: :?

If I do ever change :( the only other contender will be the rear wheel drive V*t*

I love my Transit :!: Why doesn't Ford look after their customers :?:

This is my third Transit!

RAC/AA/Trading Standards routes may well be on the cards. But I will be considering everything carefully first, because once i start something, I usually see it through to the very end :x(like parking tickets, box junctions and bus lane driving :!: )
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Postby motorwise » Fri May 05, 2006 10:35 pm

change of ownership isn't a problem because the antiperforation warranty is transferable - the problem is proving it isn't stone damage or accident damage - but I've seen more than enough (and I'm sure everyone else on here has as well) transit mark fives bursting out all over the front arches to know they're not all caused by damage - I would try pushing a bit harder but dealers will always play the "it's had accident damage" card - try ford customer services see if they'll help - can't help you with the phone number it's been about 16 years since I work for a ford main dealer

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Postby AndyG » Fri May 05, 2006 10:43 pm

motorwise wrote:change of ownership isn't a problem because the antiperforation warranty is transferable - the problem is proving it isn't stone damage or accident damage - but I've seen more than enough (and I'm sure everyone else on here has as well) transit mark fives bursting out all over the front arches to know they're not all caused by damage - I would try pushing a bit harder but dealers will always play the "it's had accident damage" card - try ford customer services see if they'll help - can't help you with the phone number it's been about 16 years since I work for a ford main dealer

good luck with it


It's through them, I've been dealing with :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I also offered them to carry out a localised repair so that they didn't have to change the whole door aperture (up to the roof and B pillar inc.) :roll: and as I've compromised my side, I was hoping that they would do likewise :roll: NOT :!:
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