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best place to get a clutch fitted ?

Postby orangevanman » Tue May 23, 2006 8:55 pm

how hard is it tio change the clutch on a swb 150 1998 tranny or where and how much will it cost ??
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Postby Luke » Tue May 23, 2006 8:58 pm

if you have ever changed a clutch on a fwd car you will think doing it on a transit is a walk in the park!!
the only thing difficult is the gearbox is heavy :x
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Tue May 23, 2006 8:59 pm

not to hard to do your self i done my last one didnt take that long tho my dad had his last one fitted cost around£160 ish i think :? cant remember exactly :lol:
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Postby MarkM » Tue May 23, 2006 10:11 pm

100ps_drw_hicube wrote:not to hard to do your self i done my last one didnt take that long tho my dad had his last one fitted cost around£160 ish i think :? cant remember exactly :lol:


Said to you before at that price it was worth having someone do it, try nearer the £300-350 area... that is the going price...remember my thread about doing the clutch myself.
1 thing to do other than properly align the clutch plate is to jack the engine up at the front making it tip slightly backwards...makes putting the box back so much easier ;) totally removing the gearbox crossmember again makes it very easy to do. Strangely my propshaft had 16mm bolts holding them to the box but it had to be dropped due to the slight flange on the gearbox but simple enough to drop the centre bearing, I have never had to use my 16mm spanner until then, might be normal or not but as I had the correct tool for the job so it was easy. Overall it was a little fiddly to do as the plastic cover plates were still on my van so you need 8mm 13mm and 10mm sockets plus wobble connectors and for sure extension bars...oh and a 16mm spanner for the propshaft, just take it slowly and it will all go ok.
Two people is the prefered number of hands when realigning/lifting the gearbox back into place and 2 trollyjacks, 1 for the engine and one for the gearbox, plus some blocks to hold the gearbox of which one will need a slot cut into to take the casting shape of the gearbox. I am starting to make it sound complicated but really it isn't. The clutch adjustment takes minutes on the later Transits as they are manually adjusted. If you don't like the sound of this start saving to pay someone.
Clutch plate assembly complete with bearing is around the £75-90 then it is plus your time...oh and whatever it costs you for a clutch alignment tool, you can do it by eye but be prepared to offer up the box a couple of times if you do it that way unless you get lucky.
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Tue May 23, 2006 10:20 pm

1 question why a spanner on the propshaft why not a socket or even better a air tool :D i done the whole lot on my van with a airtool then just torqued it all up after wards 8) saves yer knuckles too :lol: :lol: im sure a certain someone will disagree with this tho :roll: :lol:
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Postby rover » Tue May 23, 2006 11:13 pm

100ps_drw_hicube wrote:1 question why a spanner on the propshaft why not a socket or even better a air tool :D i done the whole lot on my van with a airtool then just torqued it all up after wards 8) saves yer knuckles too :lol: :lol: im sure a certain someone will disagree with this tho :roll: :lol:


Maybe cos a socket wouldnt fit.... Depends on which prop you have and which bolts, I had to use a 16mm spanner with a thin ring end on my prop, my other 16mm spanner nor any of my sockets would fit (and I have a LOT of sockets), yet when I last did one on a twin wheeler it had 17mm bolts which again I could only just get a spanner on, but the bolts also had 10mm 'hex' slots, so once they were cracked I just used a 10mm hex on an extension and the air ratchet.

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Postby MarkM » Wed May 24, 2006 1:28 am

rover wrote:Maybe cos a socket wouldnt fit.... Depends on which prop you have and which bolts, I had to use a 16mm spanner with a thin ring end on my prop, my other 16mm spanner nor any of my sockets would fit (and I have a LOT of sockets),


Exactly ;) though it was a normal thickness spanner I used.
No air gun just muscle power, although they have a place air tools I personally feel are over used especially with torque specific bolts/nuts, I agree given the clearance issue I had with the prop the 'proper' torque setting is probably wrong but then how do you torque a bolt with only spanner clearance?
Perfect example of wrong torque settings is the wheel nuts, how many of us have had to change a wheel and the nuts felt like they are welded on? I had a puncture repair done this week and I was very pleasantly surprised to see the guy replace my wheel and use a torque wrench to set the bolts :)
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Postby gemini » Wed May 24, 2006 1:35 am

MarkM wrote:I had a puncture repair done this week and I was very pleasantly surprised to see the guy replace my wheel and use a torque wrench to set the bolts :)

that must be a first :lol:
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Postby MarkM » Wed May 24, 2006 2:13 am

gemini wrote:that must be a first :lol:


Well you can guess I didn't go to Kwik Fit ;)
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Postby orangevanman » Wed May 24, 2006 7:36 am

thanks all i think i might have a go at doing it with a mate !! i will let you know how i get on

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Postby rover » Wed May 24, 2006 8:06 am

MarkM wrote:
gemini wrote:that must be a first :lol:


Well you can guess I didn't go to Kwik Fit ;)


Crickey...did you use 'Angry Al', he's the only guy I know who Tourques up wheel nuts, and subsequently the only guy I ever use for tyres :D

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Postby MarkM » Wed May 24, 2006 1:12 pm

rover wrote:
MarkM wrote:
gemini wrote:that must be a first :lol:


Well you can guess I didn't go to Kwik Fit ;)


Crickey...did you use 'Angry Al', he's the only guy I know who Tourques up wheel nuts, and subsequently the only guy I ever use for tyres :D

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Ha Ha 'Angry Al' I like it :lol: No a local tyre fitters did it, I had called Kwik Fit to check the cost of a new tyre...£62, called the other place and it was £45 or £15 for the repair, I still had plenty of tread so repair it was. Turns out the van was already on the shops computer and the tyres on the van are wearing evenly and with the very low amount of miles I have done so far not wearing out quickly. Kwik Fit in the past has sold me tyres that became worn out in a couple of thousand miles and twice failed with full tread but the wires came through and a sidewall deformed as well, Kwik Fit were just closer to me and on the way to the store I used 3 petrol stations had out of order air pumps but all seems ok for now. I didn't put the spare on as the release mech has been covered by a wooden floor in my van so I need to cut a whole in it (do you know the measurement to the release bolt?) and since I haven't tried to drop the wheel yet I don't to be honest know if the mech is siezed.
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Wed May 24, 2006 3:22 pm

MarkM wrote:but then how do you torque a bolt with only spanner clearance?


with a torque spanner !!!! :D i have 2 of em both are 15mm not much use to me :lol: :lol: we got them free with machines we have bought in the past :D
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Postby MrMPuk » Wed May 24, 2006 4:47 pm

100ps_drw_hicube wrote:
MarkM wrote:but then how do you torque a bolt with only spanner clearance?


with a torque spanner !!!! :D i have 2 of em both are 15mm not much use to me :lol: :lol: we got them free with machines we have bought in the past :D


What have you been told about doing everything up with the impact gun!

Get a set of these to go on the end of the torque wrench.

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Postby MarkM » Wed May 24, 2006 4:47 pm

100ps_drw_hicube wrote:
MarkM wrote:but then how do you torque a bolt with only spanner clearance?


with a torque spanner !!!! :D i have 2 of em both are 15mm not much use to me :lol: :lol: we got them free with machines we have bought in the past :D


Well since you have two and don't use either ........you have my address :D (actually serious about this as I have many tools I have yet to use or only used the once like the 16mm spanner)

I did some searching and only could come up with flare ends for attaching to a Norbar torque wrench, so perhaps that is a way around this by buying Crowsfeet though the clearance still might not be there.
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