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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby loot » Sat Oct 25, 2025 8:45 pm

It's true they are fraught with danger. But since my van is for adventure use rather than work use then I have to appreciate the function.I've bought 2 new struts for £10 after discount so expect to see me in A&E very soon :lol: :lol:

I am still planning on getting some electric ones soon :P
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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby loot » Sat Oct 25, 2025 8:45 pm

gotgcoalman wrote:
loot wrote:And find some stronger struts in the hedge

I just ordered some news chinesium struts from ebay for £10, bargain and will be quality of that I'm sure.

Speaking of Internet junk, temu steering wheel leather grip turned up.with needle and thread 8)
Only took an hour and cost £3.50 8)

Not perfect and didn't spend my life on the threadwork but I'm happy with it.
Is it upside down

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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby gotgcoalman » Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:15 pm

Ahhh I had my phone the wrong way

It looks lovely.

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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby MinorMatt » Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:28 pm

Altransit wrote:
loot wrote:does anyone remember tailgate gate? @punto443 @tango

I think there's only a couple on here that recall but @Altransit should recall. Anyway we were in a tailgate club sort of thing and bought uprated tailgate struts. I never fitted them to my van in the end circa 2012 ish.


Oh I recall all right :mrgreen:

I've never understood the need for one on a panel van, my vans were always loaded right up to the doors, and a tailgate would enable the escape of goods onto the road when opened. It's much easier for me to crack open a rear barn door and catch any falling debris before it makes a bid for freedom :lol:
I've also whacked my head on far too many tailgate edges to be a big fan, some of them only seem capable of opening to 90 degrees :roll:


Great to keep the rain off when working at the back
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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby loot » Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:23 pm

MinorMatt wrote:
Altransit wrote:
loot wrote:does anyone remember tailgate gate? @punto443 @tango

I think there's only a couple on here that recall but @Altransit should recall. Anyway we were in a tailgate club sort of thing and bought uprated tailgate struts. I never fitted them to my van in the end circa 2012 ish.


Oh I recall all right :mrgreen:

I've never understood the need for one on a panel van, my vans were always loaded right up to the doors, and a tailgate would enable the escape of goods onto the road when opened. It's much easier for me to crack open a rear barn door and catch any falling debris before it makes a bid for freedom :lol:
I've also whacked my head on far too many tailgate edges to be a big fan, some of them only seem capable of opening to 90 degrees :roll:


Great to keep the rain off when working at the back

That's my plan,can get a little shower curtain thing for it too so I can have a shower :P

Took both the old struts off tonight and 1 was still strong but the other was dead, I'm thinking the internal spring snapped? Anyway my new ones will come, currently have the sds short ones fitted it's better than nothing but only a pigmy will fit under it uninjured. :lol:

Today I fitted the spare wheel. Sorted the battery clamp and bits out. And just locating various screws and things
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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby loot » Fri Oct 31, 2025 12:17 am

Well you can't make it up.

So the nitrolift struts I bought in 2012 are about 2 inches short. The ones I bought recently are about an inch short and Ford say the ones I have don't exist. I assume that all mk6 and mk7 tailgate should have 1 size of gas strut? And all of them should be full length to give the tailgate a horizontal look when opened fully? I'm starting to think about cutting them and inserting 2 inches extra in length and tig welding it. Even Google and the basic checks for modified struts comes up very vague. I got the tailgate off the same van with struts. Stupid ford.
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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby Airthies » Fri Oct 31, 2025 12:32 am

Just need to make sure of the closed length in case of binding when the tailgate is being shut.

Simple way to measure is put a small cable tie around the rod when open and let the cylinder push it up the rod as it closes.
Open the tailgate and measure from the centre of the ball end down to the lower side of the cable tie, then from the centre of the cylinder ball to the rod end of the cylinder (that pushed the cable tie) and add those two measurements together and you've got the maximum closed length of strut that you can fit.

Simples

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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby loot » Fri Oct 31, 2025 9:34 am

Airthies wrote:Just need to make sure of the closed length in case of binding when the tailgate is being shut.

Simple way to measure is put a small cable tie around the rod when open and let the cylinder push it up the rod as it closes.
Open the tailgate and measure from the centre of the ball end down to the lower side of the cable tie, then from the centre of the cylinder ball to the rod end of the cylinder (that pushed the cable tie) and add those two measurements together and you've got the maximum closed length of strut that you can fit.

Simples

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I've got the strut i have that can open and close fully as something broke inside.

Would it not be the same if I measure my long strut and then the short strut and subtract that from the small strut and divide by .5 between the shaft and cylinder?. Or i could close the tailgate fully and measure how much shaft is left? The long and short aren't that different but by of the laws of levers the tailgate dropped a lot at the back so I have no chance of working under it. Bloody ford
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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby loot » Fri Oct 31, 2025 9:36 am

It's actually much less than I initially said
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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby Airthies » Fri Oct 31, 2025 9:51 am

It could be that they are similar size but different stroke length.

BJT could have schooled you more on stroke length but GCM may well have similar knowledge

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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby loot » Sat Nov 01, 2025 1:46 pm

Airthies wrote:It could be that they are similar size but different stroke length.

BJT could have schooled you more on stroke length but GCM may well have similar knowledge

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:lol:

Ok so I found it on catcar ford, strangely the site was down the other night after going through all this. Anyway

There's 2 sizes of tailgate strut available but looks like 5 part numbers available in the mk7 range. But I think the main thing is all but 1 set are 850mm length, nipple to nipple (also see gcm)

I can put assume that the variants might differ in power force.
The second open is 892mm
Which is mine.
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There are some high roof vans that have a tailgate filler panel from the factory and maybe even fwd rwd variants which differ in height so i might accept that the 40 or so drop might be useful if they're higher up than the low roof tourneo for dwarves to be able to grab the fully open tailgate in order to close it?

Otherwise I've no reason to see why you'd have a lower strut on some variants?

Anyway. I've managed to find what I need.

I really should have looked closer to my original strut in the beginning for the seemingly obvious part numbers I could have googled :roll:

But another point goes to assuming the advert and limited chance of options would bring up the correct parts in the beginning.

Winner is. Uncommon sense :P
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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby Airthies » Sat Nov 01, 2025 1:58 pm

loot wrote:
I really should have looked closer to my original strut in the beginning for the seemingly obvious part numbers I could have googled :roll:

:P


You mean to say I wasted all my time and knowledge on something that could have been solved by the application of "having a better foofing look"

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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby loot » Sat Nov 01, 2025 7:43 pm

Airthies wrote:
loot wrote:
I really should have looked closer to my original strut in the beginning for the seemingly obvious part numbers I could have googled :roll:

:P


You mean to say I wasted all my time and knowledge on something that could have been solved by the application of "having a better foofing look"

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Yes perhaps :oops: but consider this... It was lovely chatting with you :P :lol:
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Re: Loots mk7 keeper

Postby loot » Sat Nov 01, 2025 7:48 pm

Right so a bit more. Screwed in the reverse switch, I did it reasonably tight but the gear selector was not really working,it went on off on but off when not being held on. Luckily I was under the van and had an assistant. So Tightening it up to the prescribed torque setting off TAF or NAN lb/ft :lol: it works as it should now.

Also answer me this.

Private plates yeah, the specs are your car must move under it's own power,be the type to have an mot and have been continuously in mot or sorn for 5 years. But there's no way to know this is there?

Anyway having lost my retention certificate and paying 105 quid for a replica I tried to change it online today and what do you know it went straight through :D

I know right. F*** knows :P
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Re: I seem to have a lot more power.

Postby Airthies » Sat Nov 01, 2025 8:37 pm

loot wrote:
Airthies wrote:
loot wrote:
I really should have looked closer to my original strut in the beginning for the seemingly obvious part numbers I could have googled :roll:

:P


You mean to say I wasted all my time and knowledge on something that could have been solved by the application of "having a better foofing look"

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I suppose, they're are worse people to waste time on

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