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Postby intransit89 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:45 pm

Jezclayton wrote:Rob

You may not be doing this project to everyone's taste, but hell, it's your van and you can do what the f*ck you want with it. I have no doubt this van will pass the MOT in due course and then you can post one big raspberry to everyone who thought otherwise.

I think it's a shame this thread got compressed as it is so entertaining in it's raw state. Are you related to Ricky Gervais by any chance? That's a compliment by the way. I have nothing but respect for you.

Keep up the good work and most of all keep posting. :lol:

thanks thats 5 people thats said it wont take much to pass mot :D

thanks :!: :wink:
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Postby intransit89 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:01 pm

just got this of me by dave i was trying to see how i could make a new arch bit :lol: but got there in the end
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Postby dachre » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:16 pm

Good going Inti..... your doing a great job there...... and its nice to read the positive comments from people supporting you and also good advice from their own experiences.....

Now with all that said and done...... why havent you removed the terminals from the battery whilst your welding.... :) :) .....

Good work tho Inti... you'll soon be finished...... :) ......
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Postby intransit89 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:18 pm

dachre wrote:Good going Inti..... your doing a great job there...... and its nice to read the positive comments from people supporting you and also good advice from their own experiences.....

Now with all that said and done...... why havent you removed the terminals from the battery whilst your welding.... :) :) .....

Good work tho Inti... you'll soon be finished...... :) ......

lol i did when i was welding under it when i tock the pic and dave tocken pic was when i just put it back :D
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Postby intransit89 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:31 pm

Luke wrote:couple of tips inty.... get a can of anti splatter and every so oftern spray it into the gun end, it will help the tip last longer, you can get tip dip but for light work it tends to block the gas coming out as it never gets hot enough to burn the excess off.

next one get some soapy water or you can get a it in a spray can and go over the reg (with the gas turned on) you shouldnt get any bubbles - if you do thats gas escaping :!:

i now know where the gas was escaping!

you know the little pipe from the welder with a metal fiting that pop in to the gas bottle pipe?

well it wasnt pushed in much reasion why it just of gone! notice this when i tock the bottle out to take it back for a refill so now it reconected it with carpet tape to stop it pulling out :wink:

and got the reg working spot on
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Postby gazza » Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:53 pm

[quote="intransit89"]well like it or not its well better then the rot plus it may look shite but i hit them welds with a hammer and thay dont shift so what more you want plus it be hidden anyway with the wings and bitchoed up so if the van passers mot then must be good

i rest my case! just cos you hit it with a hammer doesn mean it is safe - safe being the key word. if it is hidden does not mean it is acceptable to bodge it.

pluss rusty mig wire dont go well as it dont come out smooth if you notice the drivers side its little ruff but the other side is smoother due to having clean mig wire

so you have learnt that clean metal and wire makes for a better weld, first thing you are taught is weld prep and machine set up. nothing wring with learning by your mistakes but it is the hard way.

i have tried to give you sound advice before, take it or leave it its up to you. but, speaking as a time served engineer, your welding still isnt up to scratch. if you choose to make good the poor welds well done, if you leave em as they are just think about the amount of work you have put in to end up with an unsafe vehicle, seems mad to me :shock:
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Re: !LWB MK4 Project!!some more new tools!!dash finshed!update

Postby intransit89 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:04 pm

gazza wrote:
intransit89 wrote:well like it or not its well better then the rot plus it may look shite but i hit them welds with a hammer and thay dont shift so what more you want plus it be hidden anyway with the wings and bitchoed up so if the van passers mot then must be good

i rest my case! just cos you hit it with a hammer doesn mean it is safe - safe being the key word. if it is hidden does not mean it is acceptable to bodge it.

pluss rusty mig wire dont go well as it dont come out smooth if you notice the drivers side its little ruff but the other side is smoother due to having clean mig wire

so you have learnt that clean metal and wire makes for a better weld, first thing you are taught is weld prep and machine set up. nothing wring with learning by your mistakes but it is the hard way.

i have tried to give you sound advice before, take it or leave it its up to you. but, speaking as a time served engineer, your welding still isnt up to scratch. if you choose to make good the poor welds well done, if you leave em as they are just think about the amount of work you have put in to end up with an unsafe vehicle, seems mad to me :shock:
i do see your point tho :wink:

when i have nothing to do one day i will grind them flat and go other them again seam weld :wink:

but i do think its all down to my earth clamp :?

i even look at daves welding on his sill and its the same and he notice when he tryed to take the earth clamp of its burn his hand

is this wrong :!:
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Postby dachre » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:39 pm

Some smaller/cheaper welders do have smaller earth cable/clamps and can get warm/hot when being used on the higher settings as they are just too thin and flimsy.

It might also be a sign that the clamp is loose, it isnt attached to the vehicle body properly but also the clamp may not be attatched to the copper wire inside the earth cabling properly.

When there is a gap or break in the earthing, electricity can build up resistance and even jump accross the gap etc, and it will get very hot and you might suffer from intermitent welding.

So just check everything is tight and maybe you might want to change your earth cable and clamp for a heaver duty one...


This project will be finished soon Inti... whats gonna be your next project?.... :D .....
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Re: !LWB MK4 Project!!some more new tools!!dash finshed!update

Postby intransit89 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:54 pm

dachre wrote:Some smaller/cheaper welders do have smaller earth cable/clamps and can get warm/hot when being used on the higher settings as they are just too thin and flimsy.

It might also be a sign that the clamp is loose, it isnt attached to the vehicle body properly but also the clamp may not be attatched to the copper wire inside the earth cabling properly.

When there is a gap or break in the earthing, electricity can build up resistance and even jump accross the gap etc, and it will get very hot and you might suffer from intermitent welding.

So just check everything is tight and maybe you might want to change your earth cable and clamp for a heaver duty one...


This project will be finished soon Inti... whats gonna be your next project?.... :D .....


god dont say next project :lol: might be a hicube lol

but i wouldnt mind doing a mk4 swb with a mk3 front part from the bumper leave that mk4 and have a v6 essex

but this will be years :!:
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Postby sidspop » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:02 pm

Re earthing, grind the paint off at the earth point. Touch up the ends of the earth clamp with a file to clean any sh*t off. And then, stick a g cramp round it to nip it onto the body. you will get a much better earth
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Postby transit killer » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:05 pm

Just looks like too much wire and too little heat Rob, but if your earth clamp is not making good contact it will get hot and you will get pigeon weld.
Try and get hold of a good quality earth clamp with either a good strong spring or a threaded type clamp which is the type I have fitted to my Cebora.

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Postby intransit89 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:59 pm

transit killer wrote:Just looks like too much wire and too little heat Rob, but if your earth clamp is not making good contact it will get hot and you will get pigeon weld.
Try and get hold of a good quality earth clamp with either a good strong spring or a threaded type clamp which is the type I have fitted to my Cebora.

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8) that looks good :!: how much are these then?
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Postby transit killer » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:09 pm

Mine was a freebie from a friend who does welding underwater but I found this which will be just as good and is cheap too http://www.thewelderswarehouse.com/Welding/600amp_Screw_Type_Earth_Clamp_.html
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Postby intransit89 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:24 pm

transit killer wrote:Mine was a freebie from a friend who does welding underwater but I found this which will be just as good and is cheap too http://www.thewelderswarehouse.com/Welding/600amp_Screw_Type_Earth_Clamp_.html

about 10.00 posted then might ask dave to get me one and pay him back 8)

thanks for that link mate cant get cheaper then that :!:
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Re: !LWB MK4 Project!!some more new tools!!dash finshed!update

Postby Luke » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:36 pm

those clamps are good but for the stuff your doing the clamp you have will probly be ok - post a pic of it :)
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