zetec in a mk1 flat front! it will fit????

[Luke]

for ages i'd always thought a zetec would go well in a mk1 transit keeping the flat front (as they look more beautiful that way ) the reason i thought it would fit is if you look at a sierra with a cvh theres loads of room infront of the engine and the zetec is basically a 16v head on a cvh block

well now i have a mk1 transit with a flat front i've given it some thought and still undecided but i dont think im going zetec

but speaking to minormatt he's given me a rough measurement of the zetec he's fitting into his minor and its 490mm from the g/box face to the front pulley so i popped outside and measured the mk1 - 480mm from the g/box face to the radiator of course this means it wont fit but by 10mm which is easly found - the rad would move forward you could mount the box back etc. etc.

ok so you still have the problem of mounting it to a gearbox but the main thing is it will phisically go in ok

so if i'm not gonna do it next best thing is to watch somone else have a go on here

any takers

[MinorMatt]

Sorry not me!

But I will be putting a zetec in my minor and will keep a record of the wiring etc if anyone wants to try

[madmark]

well whats it going to be luke???????sticking to the v4

[transitgeoff]

tdci diesel

[davek]

You can use sierra 1.8 cvh gearbox, flywheel, starter etc on a fwd 1.6 cvh all bolts straight on-i've done it in a westfield. The flywheel needs re-drilling to suit zetec (think its big bolt size looks like it's going to fit till you try -can't remember for sure)
The problem you would have in the thermostat housing facing the bulkhead, raceline etc do kits for mk1/2 escorts but are £100+
I had thought of replacing my pinto with zetec?

[madmark]

well i still state that any engine in a big twin wheel van isnt going to pull it along that well,unless your talking modern diesel
i have tried a 1.7v4
a 3ltr v6
and a 2ltr ohc and all were rubbish!
the diesel is the way to go,maybe a zetec in a swb might be a difrent story!

[Neil]

your v6 must have been knackered then or your ratios wrong ,mine pulls along easy with modern traffic,up to 50 to 70 no effort

[madmark]

neil recon ford replacement engine sweet! was over geard mate ,yours will be 4.63 into 1to1 on your auto this will be just right ,mine with overdrive didnt like it !

[Luke]

You can use sierra 1.8 cvh gearbox, flywheel, starter etc on a fwd 1.6 cvh all bolts straight on-i've done it in a westfield. The flywheel needs re-drilling to suit zetec (think its big bolt size looks like it's going to fit till you try -can't remember for sure)
The problem you would have in the thermostat housing facing the bulkhead, raceline etc do kits for mk1/2 escorts but are £100+
I had thought of replacing my pinto with zetec?

whats the difference in the zetec flywheel bolt pcd and the pinto one
my thoughts were bolt up a pinto adapterplate onto a zetec so a transit MT75 would fit but then somehow mod the transit pinto flywheel to fit the zetec crank

but yes as geoff says i'm now thinking of going TDCi one thinks for certain the 1.7V4 isnt staying in

[madmark]

for everyday use a tdci or tddi would be the way to go!

[Luke]

yeah but in a swb a nice cheep zetec could be the way to go i reckon £200-£300 could have the job done but the TDCi is gonna be waaaay more
thats what puts me off the zetec for mine the weight of my mk1 as its a lwb

[madmark]

mate trust me a zetec will not pull any better than the pinto ,its the touque its not enouph grunt! yes you may have 120bhp or whatever they are but the touque figure is well low compaid to the diesel engine!
even the essex v6 is low tourqe output compaid to a diesel !

[Luke]

have you got the figures for them

[madmark]

the diesels???? or the petrols?????

85ps tddi 230nm
100ps tddi 250nm
125 tdci 285nm

[Luke]

mondeo TDCi 130ps
Maximum Power: 130ps (128 bhp) @ 3500 rpm
Maximum Torque: 243 lb/ft (330 Nm) @ 1500 rpm

Mondeo 1999cc petrol - dont think this is the zetec mabe the later engine
Power Output 142 bhp
Torque 190 Nm