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Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby robbie.cee » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:27 pm

Sweeeeeeeeeeet well done geeza!

put me down for plate n mounts first pls m8!!
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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby dieselhead123 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:56 pm

Right then lads,
had a bit of spare time today so I fitted an old V6 Essex block in the Surrogate Mother.

The block has one of my adapter plates on it and is sitting correctly positioned in the Mk5 engine bay;
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I then started on the engine mountings.
The left hand engine mounting plate in place on the block;
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and the right hand one;
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Because the engine mounting point on the Essex block is so low compared to the pinto block, these mountings will be constructed from CNC profile cut pieces of flat plate welded together.
More on the mountings later.

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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby robbie.cee » Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:43 pm

Top stuff, appetite wetted for sure now!!! cant wait!

"the only way is Essex" v6 that is!
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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby wole » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:29 pm

hi i am interested in a adaptor plate for a mt75 di to a v6 essex. as the mt75 is already fitted there should be no need for prop alterations is that correct
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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby wole » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:41 pm

montym100 wrote:
Dirty Habit wrote:I would be interested in an adaptor for V6 :)



Anyone else :?:

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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby Luke » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:47 pm

wole wrote:hi i am interested in a adaptor plate for a mt75 di to a v6 essex. as the mt75 is already fitted there should be no need for prop alterations is that correct
yes thats right :D
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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby dieselhead123 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:15 am

As Luke says, the point of using an adapter plate is to leave the existing gearbox in place, this reduces work and ensures that not just prop-shaft is standard but speedo drive, clutch cable and reverse light switching are unaffected.

Did a bit more work on the engine mountings, the individual parts are drawn up using a CAD program, printed out onto paper and cut out. The paper templates are assessed for size/shape and adjusted as necessary.
When we are happy with the shape of the template, we produce one in steel. The drawings will be submitted for CNC profiling, ensuring that each additional item is identical to the part you see here.

The left hand engine mounting lower plate;
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The 'cut-out' at the rear of the mounting allows for starter motor removal.

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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby montym100 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:52 pm

Tim,

Once that engine mount is welded is that complete? or will you be adding sides to the long plate going to the engine mount? only asking as it`s good imformation for me for when i do an engine conversion in the future.

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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby robbie.cee » Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:49 pm

Wicked stuff Tim! cant wait!......... :P
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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby dieselhead123 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:57 am

montym100 wrote:Tim,

Once that engine mount is welded is that complete? or will you be adding sides to the long plate going to the engine mount? only asking as it`s good information for me for when i do an engine conversion in the future.

Cheers
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I am certain that the engine mount as above will NOT support the engine sufficiently well, a great deal of 'head scratching' has occurred while deciding how best to stiffen it.
Eventually I decided to 'split' a piece of box section and slide it over the rear of the horizontal plate;
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The open ends will be 'capped' to avoid water ingress.

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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby dieselhead123 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:45 am

The left hand engine mounting is now complete;
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A similar construction method will be used for the right hand side

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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby robbie.cee » Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:19 am

stick me down for a kit plz m8!
2.9i 24v cosworth v6 LSD now fitted and quad pipes out back

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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby dieselhead123 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:28 pm

Right hand engine mounting is now completed, again, CAD drawings have been made to enable CNC profiled copies to be produced.
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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby robbie.cee » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:53 pm

Blond question, why is one leg shorter than t'other? did the Di sit slightly over on one side or is it just due to shape of block?

Mounts look great, defo have a set plz n plate!
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Re: Adaptor plate for MT75 Gearbox to Essex V4/V6 Interest?

Postby dieselhead123 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:24 pm

Yes mate, the engines in the Mk3/4/5 Transits do sit with the crankshaft center-line offset towards the right hand side of the van, no idea why :oops:

The socket extension you can see in the earlier pictures was set to engage the front pulley bolt of the di engine when the engine mountings were in place. This 'jig' was used to align the Pinto engine, then by changing the socket, the Essex.
If you look at your engine you will see that the right hand mounting is also shorter.

Got a bit more done to the conversion in between jobs today, refitted the front pulley;
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Fitted the front pulley adapter;
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this allows the fitment of a second pulley to drive the power steering pump.

The pulley adapter is made to accept a power steering pump pulley, (the larger type), from a 2.5di Transit;
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Spent some time with a supplier today, we might have some good news on the clutch application, one is being delivered tomorrow, fingers crossed!
Just the Pas pump bracket to do now :lol:

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