Mk2 Kingpins. Any short cuts?

[baconsdozen]

Sorry,got it wrong.
It's six ply.

[mb4ever]

Sorry,got it wrong.
It's six ply.

Are you serious that you have cross-ply and radial on the front axle?
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[DodgeRover]

I've got a radial on the drivers side front and a crossply (8 ply rated) on the passengers because I keep hitting the kerb.

Now please tell me you are having a laugh, you can mix them front to back but never on the same axle.

[mb4ever]

I've got a radial on the drivers side front and a crossply (8 ply rated) on the passengers because I keep hitting the kerb.

Now please tell me you are having a laugh, you can mix them front to back but never on the same axle.

Can you fill that out a bit for us please DodgeRover?
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[FredTransit]

the same tyres on an axle. So fronts could be crossplys but rears radials. I fear BD is having us on......

[baconsdozen]

Sorry,couldn't resist a wind up.
Its on radials all round.
Axle all cleaned up and installed.

[mb4ever]

Sorry,couldn't resist a wind up.
Its on radials all round.
Axle all cleaned up and installed.

Phew, that's a relief. . .

Please will you tell us the precise rules on mixing cross ply tyres and radial ply tyres?
And the penalties for getting caught mixing them the wrong way?
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[conrod]

Hey BD, what vintage is that Mk2 of yours? And is it the dual rear wheel or single? Just curious, as I notice the front stub axles are different to the Mk2 (DRW) front axle I just bought. The caliper mounts on mine are separate to the stub, where yours are one piece.

cheers Conrad

[baconsdozen]

Hello Conrad.
My van is a Mk1 transit twin wheel with a CI body.
The axle is from (I think) an early Mk2. I'm not really sure I bought it a long while ago when I bought a load of bits from a garage that was being cleared. The axle had been left in the garage pit that had a foot of water in the bottom but the agreement was to clear the lot so I got it out,cleaned it up and stuck it on the van. The discs are definately LWB Mk2 bought from a scrappie when there were plenty of Mk2s going in crushers.

Mixing tyres.
I run radials all round,you can put them on the back but I'd rather not have a long conversation with an insurance company or copper,and the easiest way to avoid it is have all the tyres the same.

[swear_bear]

So another thread i found that's sorta dead but I think its better to use existing threads instead of making new ones.

How much of gap is ok to shim? I got about a 10 mm gap on both sides.

I will change the pins but I need to get it thorugh MoT so i font have to worry about that deadline anymore.

[baconsdozen]

Do you really mean 10mm? about 1mm is the most I'd feel safe shimming,anymore and it must mean the thrust bearings have broken up.
Changing the bushes and/or king pins will not get rid of lift. New thrust bearings correctly shimmed will.

[swear_bear]

Well it looked like that much when the MoT inspector did the lift check.

and another question what is the difference between broached and reamed bushings?

Well they didn't freak out or anything about the gap so hopefully it isn't that bad, and i dont want a permanent bodge just to
get it through MoT so i can replace them later at my leisure.

[baconsdozen]

Broaching is done with a tool that is pushed through the bushes,reamers are rotated,they have cutting surfaces on the outside.
I can't see how it could lift 10mm even if the thrust bearings were totally missing.

[swear_bear]

Yeah now that I've looked at some diagrams and thought about it 10 mm seems impossible.

Well until my new pins arrive I have bought a grease gun so I am going to at least clean of the
old grease that has made it out of the joint, refill the grease on both sides and see if that makes
any noticeable difference if make a big diffenrence I might add a couple of layers of copper padding
under the caps to se if that takes all the excessive slack out.

[baconsdozen]

If there is as much slack as you say the thrust bearings have disintegrated completely. The stub axles and/or axle will be wearing fast and the whole thing is dangerous.Bodging it up with copper shims is a total waste of time.