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"74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby Alexandre » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:08 am

Dear Members,

A couple of years ago I bought this beautiful Ford Transit Mk1. After a year of driving I decided to change it up a bit. I bought a Volvo 740 with 2.3l turbo engine. I demolished it, got the engine and the interior out, put a m90 manual gearbox behind it and scooped it in the Transit. At the moment the re-wiring is done, new gaslines are mounted and new brakelines are being fitted.
But, with around 200HP the old diff won't be any good. Also, I have the 5.8 diff mounted behind it, that'll give me an awesome 0-60mph time, but I don't really need it to do that.

So I was wondering if any of you know of the diff with lower ratios will be able to take this amount of HP, or if you have any other advice? I read about switching it for an Iveco Daily rear axle, which one do I need to look for?

I like to be able to cruise at 70-80mph (130kmph) comfortably without having to much RPM.

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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby conrod » Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:16 am

what is the top gear ratio of your gearbox?

I have a LWB van, similar to yours with a 3.8 supercharged V6, and a 4.63:1 diff ratio (the tallest available for this axle) The top gear ratio in mine (auto) is 0. 696:1, and this gives me 100kph @2700rpm, so 130kph would be 3500rpm. I have given it quite a hard time, even drag raced it once and it hasn't broken! :)

Show us some pictures of your engine installation please!

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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby Alexandre » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:12 pm

Thanks for the answer Conrod! That sounds like a good option then. Did you buy a new diff insert or is it an original old axle? I saw the post of your build earlier, awesome van mate!
5th gear ratio is .80 or .70, not sure at the moment, but that would be fine then.

I'll make a separate post with pictures of the build later.
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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby Alexandre » Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:14 pm

This was quite recently after the swap, alot has been done since.
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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby conrod » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:05 pm

nice work, I look forward to seeing more pics!

How is space for the pedals with that cutout? My Mk1 flat front with V8 is very tight!

My Mk2 came with the 4.63 diff, but you can swap the centre, or easier, the whole axle into yours. Let me know your top gear ratio, and I will put it into my gear ratio/speed calculator.
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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby Alexandre » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:27 pm

Very tight too haha, but I had planned to place the seats a bit back and I bought a wilwood racing pedalbox that will be installed soon. I'll let you know, thanks in advance!
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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby South Hem » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:07 pm

I’m running a 3.85:1 Ford 9inch diff inserted into the original Transit rear axle. Also using the standard 4 speed Laycock overdrive gearbox all driven by a 3.0 l Essex V6. That makes the gearing about right for my MK2 LWB.
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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby doc_bee » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:37 pm

@South Hem
did you only use the crown pinon set of the 9inch Ford axle or the complete unit incl. the diff?

I'm riding only a 2,8litre V6, but still with the 5,83 ratio of the Feuerwehr.

@conrad
Do you use a LSD for your drag race?

Thanks for your helps
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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby conrod » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:54 am

doc_bee wrote:@South Hem
did you only use the crown pinon set of the 9inch Ford axle or the complete unit incl. the diff?

I'm riding only a 2,8litre V6, but still with the 5,83 ratio of the Feuerwehr.

@conrad
Do you use a LSD for your drag race?

Thanks for your helps
Thomas


Hi Thomas, no LSD, I tried to get one but could not find one. Am going to fit a Mk7 rear axle, 3.58 ratio. Again no LSD available for this that I can find!
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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby doc_bee » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:12 am

Hi conrod, thanks for your answer.
I think it was you posting a photo of a transit twin wheel axle with a welded in 9inch Center. Do you know how this works with the half-shafts?

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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby conrod » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:15 pm

doc_bee wrote:Hi conrod, thanks for your answer.
I think it was you posting a photo of a transit twin wheel axle with a welded in 9inch Center. Do you know how this works with the half-shafts?

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yes that was me, a long time ago! I removed the axle shafts, and they were standard Transit, so the side gears must have been made to suit the Transit spline. Or possibly matched the nine inch ones anyway?
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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby doc_bee » Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:40 pm

Did you take any photos or measurements of the axle?

If the number of splines between Transit and 9inch were the same, this would be a great opportunity for ratios and LSDs.

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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby conrod » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:37 pm

doc_bee wrote:Did you take any photos or measurements of the axle?

If the number of splines between Transit and 9inch were the same, this would be a great opportunity for ratios and LSDs.

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Yes it would be.

No measurements, although it was roughly same width as original. Only pic I could find:

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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby doc_bee » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:48 pm

Thanks for that.

I have learned that the 9inch has 28 or 31splines. But the mk1/2 axle counts only 20splines. So I'm wondering how this fits. :shock:

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Re: "74 transit MK1 with Volvo 2.3L turbo, diff question

Postby South Hem » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:42 am

Hi Thomas, I used the standard Transit half shafts. I am in the UK but the work was done in South Africa where I sent the van. I say this because I’m not sure how they actually did the work. The 9” has loads of options ratio wise and it’s a very strong unit. I’m very pleased with it and it makes a huge difference. 4:63 to 1 just isn’t high enough for a V6 with Overdrive. Fully loaded it gets about 20mpg and most important cruises very quietly after I spent about a grand on soundproofing the whole van!
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