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Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby mike c » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:16 pm

i have a mk2 2.0l pinto swb van, i have an mt75 gearbox, adapter plate and flywheel to go on.

i need a cross member, is the early mk3 lwb the best one? i cant weld, but can do drillin and boltin etc etc

i also need a propshaft, is there any that will just bolt up? or do i HAVE to get one custom made?

the van is a very late mk2 with a 4 speed overdrive box

Thanks for any help or advice

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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby FredTransit » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:20 pm

I think the Mk3 had the type9 box, you need a crossmember to match the box, the Mk5 defo has the MT, look for one out of a Mk5. BTW what's wrong with the OD box? They are fine usually in the SWB, as long as they are factory.
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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby Luke » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:26 pm

g/b crossmember you want ideally is the mk3 lwb from a van that has the MT75 i think it was 86-88 that were type9 and 88-92 mt75 :D

the reason for this cross member is the mounting points will be in the right positions - althogh it will still need a bit off modding - but less than the others :lol:
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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby Luke » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:27 pm

mike - do you have a 2 piece prop now or a single piece :?:
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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby mike c » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:30 pm

nothing wrong with it, all works fine at the mo, just want it to be a bit more quiet, it should be more efficient and it certainly will be lighter. The pinto has a little more power than standard so i'm not sure how long the 4 speed will last, i keep forgetting i need to take it easy with the syncros when driving enthusiastically :oops:

I'm not in a hurry to do the conversion, hence wanting to know which bits are most ideal, just planning ahead for a more robust gearbox

and i just got the box on ebay for peanuts

cheers for the heads up on the mk3 with the type9's

luke, the prop has a centre UJ and what looks like a sliding joint next to the middle bearing... is this a 2 piece?

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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby rover » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:30 pm

I've got one here sitting on my scrap pile if you want it? (Nottingham)

Also the front half of the prop should be fine and join it to your rear half... I've got that too :wink:

If you want them and can fetch them they are yours for nowt.

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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby Luke » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:36 pm

mike c wrote:I'm not in a hurry to do the conversion, hence wanting to know which bits are most ideal, just planning ahead for a more robust gearbox
get this bit if you can it will fit your floor perfectly, i know you cant weld but you could at a push bond and pop rivit it in - or get someone else to weld it for you :D
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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby Luke » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:38 pm

another thing .......... is it the same starter motor :? :?: or do you need a different one as its now mounted on the plate :idea: :?:

not sure mabe someone will know :D
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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby rover » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:43 pm

Luke wrote:another thing .......... is it the same starter motor :? :?: or do you need a different one as its now mounted on the plate :idea: :?:

not sure mabe someone will know :D


Not sure on that one....but I've got one of those as well :lol:

Its easier to just cut a hole in the floor dont you think Luke? Fine if you can weld but I wouldnt fancy just rivetting a large piece like that in :?

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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby Luke » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:50 pm

rover wrote:Its easier to just cut a hole in the floor dont you think Luke? Fine if you can weld but I wouldnt fancy just rivetting a large piece like that in :?

Rover.

know what you mean but it makes the job much better - if mikes taking his time saving the bits it's well worth getting hold of that piece if the opertunity arrises - even if it doesnt get fitted strait away :D
i dont really think that piece has a great amount of strength in it the 2 main chassis rails front to back and the crossmembers side to side - theres 1 right behind that bit of floor, best welded in like you say - mabe an mot tester could confirm if it would be acceptable :? but i did weld it in on mine :lol:
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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby captain hook » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:52 pm

just planning ahead for a more robust gearbox.............

I'd much rather keep what you've got.........

I've a Recovery Transit with an overdrive 'box...

It weighs 2600kg and regularly tows 3000kg.....

At 500,000 kilometers it's still fine.

I had a Minibus that did 227000miles....

Only had 4 MT75 'boxes :shock:
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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby mike c » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:12 am

rover wrote:I've got one here sitting on my scrap pile if you want it? (Nottingham)

Also the front half of the prop should be fine and join it to your rear half... I've got that too :wink:

If you want them and can fetch them they are yours for nowt.

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you legend, i'm only down in hinckley so nottingham isn't far, i'd be only too happy to take the bits off your hands for some beer tokens :D if an evening is good i can get there for 6pm, otherwise it'll have to be friday afternoon or sunday.

i was planning on just cutting the floor and seeing how that goes, a welder is on the cards in the not too distant hopefully so i can also go back and do that later if i want. i definately dont want to be riveting in panels, smacks of bodgery!

thanks everyone..... this seems to be easier than i thought!

captain - i have already gone through one 4 speeder (was already damaged when i got the van). The MT75 is a very well designed gearbox and far more modern than the type G. If it goes i'll struggle to find a good replacement, whereas there are loads of MT75's about. I hate knowing i've got an outdated, heavy, horrendously noisy bit of kit under me when a much better part can be fitted pretty easily and cheaply. I think you might have had some bad luck with mt's and good luck with the type G - it might well be suited to heavy loads but not so much high speeds.

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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby rover » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:21 am

If you want to come up one evening mate thats fine, just drop me a pm when you are ready and I'll sort the bits out and give you my address.

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Re: Mk2 pinto MT75 conversion

Postby FredTransit » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:30 am

mike c wrote:
rover wrote:I've got one here sitting on my scrap pile if you want it? (Nottingham)

Also the front half of the prop should be fine and join it to your rear half... I've got that too :wink:

If you want them and can fetch them they are yours for nowt.

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you legend, i'm only down in hinckley so nottingham isn't far, i'd be only too happy to take the bits off your hands for some beer tokens :D if an evening is good i can get there for 6pm, otherwise it'll have to be friday afternoon or sunday.

i was planning on just cutting the floor and seeing how that goes, a welder is on the cards in the not too distant hopefully so i can also go back and do that later if i want. i definately dont want to be riveting in panels, smacks of bodgery!

thanks everyone..... this seems to be easier than i thought!

captain - i have already gone through one 4 speeder (was already damaged when i got the van). The MT75 is a very well designed gearbox and far more modern than the type G. If it goes i'll struggle to find a good replacement, whereas there are loads of MT75's about. I hate knowing i've got an outdated, heavy, horrendously noisy bit of kit under me when a much better part can be fitted pretty easily and cheaply. I think you might have had some bad luck with mt's and good luck with the type G - it might well be suited to heavy loads but not so much high speeds.

cheers

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I did ask if it was a factory OD. We have one in the minibus that's factory and it's great. I already have a spare in case it goes. I would just cut the floor for the MT (and have). Done neatly it's fine, and TBH would not pop rivet in a large section of floor, come to think of it I wouldn't pay a welder to to do that either.
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