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1988 battery

Postby locost1 » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:04 pm

iam due to pick up a 1988 transit but it needs a new battery can anyone tell me what battery terminals it has, round or square? 2.5 diesel luton

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Re: 1988 battery

Postby psv-hgv-flt » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:20 pm

square, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. :wink:
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby AlanN » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:24 pm

Yep, mines a sqaure post
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby Trojan » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:46 pm

Daft as it sounds - just start it using a start pack - it should then run itself of it's alternator, at least to get to a garage and the purchase of a new battery (unless you can phone where the van is, and ask?).
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby Altransit » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:01 am

I'm pretty sure it won't run without a battery as the alternator needs 12v on the coils to make it work in the first place.

Battery may be the same as my old MK4 which was an 097
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby GAZ. » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:25 am

The battery you need is an 097 or alternativly 093 which are square terminal.
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby GBBiker » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:48 pm

Altransit wrote:I'm pretty sure it won't run without a battery as the alternator needs 12v on the coils to make it work in the first place.


A 2.5 Di will run without a battery connected. It only uses the battery for starting essentially. After that it is pretty much self-sufficient until you overload the circuit with ancilliaries.
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby Trojan » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:52 pm

GBBiker wrote:
Altransit wrote:I'm pretty sure it won't run without a battery as the alternator needs 12v on the coils to make it work in the first place.


A 2.5 Di will run without a battery connected. It only uses the battery for starting essentially. After that it is pretty much self-sufficient until you overload the circuit with ancilliaries.

That was my understanding as well, although obviously you would want to leave the "dead" battery connected, if nothing else other than stopping the terminals shorting out.
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby madmark » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:02 pm

well unless you have one very good starter pack in this wether i cant see it starting ,mind you it is the erly engine if its a 1988 so it probly will start! :wink:
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby Altransit » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:22 pm

GBBiker wrote:
Altransit wrote:I'm pretty sure it won't run without a battery as the alternator needs 12v on the coils to make it work in the first place.


A 2.5 Di will run without a battery connected. It only uses the battery for starting essentially. After that it is pretty much self-sufficient until you overload the circuit with ancilliaries.


That may be true for an old technology diesel, but the more modern ones, including the Di, need 12v to hold open the stop solenoid at least. Without a battery connected the alternator won't produce anything.
If you charge up the dead battery, it may be just enough to make the alternator produce a charge, even if it won't start the engine.
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby locost1 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:54 pm

thanks so much everyone....

But my other post points out a bigger problem???
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby GBBiker » Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:58 pm

Altransit wrote:That may be true for an old technology diesel, but the more modern ones, including the Di, need 12v to hold open the stop solenoid at least. Without a battery connected the alternator won't produce anything.
If you charge up the dead battery, it may be just enough to make the alternator produce a charge, even if it won't start the engine.




I've just had mine running this afternnon with the battery disconnected :wink:
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby Gaz 270 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:02 pm

once you jump start the van the field windings in the altenator will excite after that the altenator will produce enough to keep the windings energised thus running the vehicle.
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Re: 1988 battery

Postby Altransit » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:08 pm

GBBiker wrote: I've just had mine running this afternnon with the battery disconnected :wink:

These alternators must be powered differently to some others then :? I tried this with an old diesel I had years ago, because I thought it should run with the stone dead battery still fitted................ and it wouldn't :shock:

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Re: 1988 battery

Postby GBBiker » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:19 pm

Mine's a Bosch 55A job with the vac pump on the back.

Looking for a 90A/100A as we speak. The words sh*t and rocking horse are valid :evil:
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