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Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby TeeKay » Sat May 11, 2013 4:37 pm

:cry: :(

Well, we took MoHo for her first MOT since it expired last August and here's the list. I have omitted a few minor bits, like headlamp aim, exhaust probs that we knew about etc...



NSR inner sill near front mount Suspension spring mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)

NSR near rear mount Suspension spring mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)

Rear near rear mount Suspension spring mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)

Rear crossmember near NSR spring mount Suspension spring mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)

NSF d bush Anti-roll bar rubber mounting deteriorated resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)

OSF d bush Anti-roll bar rubber mounting deteriorated resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)

NSR Rear brake binding (3.7.A.5a)

Rear both Stop lamps remain on when the brakes are released (1.2.1e)

NSR Rear parking brake recording little or no effort (3.7.A.7a)



There were a fair few advisories tbh, but one thing at a time, eh!

Handbrake we knew about as we'd tried to adjust without any luck. Brakes were a tad spongy so the rear brake binding part wasn't a surprise.

'Brake lights permanently on' were a 'wtf' cos we tested them prior and I also followed the missus all the 10 miles to the test centre and there weren't any probs then! Sods law...

Obvs our main prob, like with many trannys is the tin worm :(

We were hoping to take the van to Glastonbury in 6 weeks :( Looking at the list is it as bad as it looks?

One positive is that we thought at least 3, if not all of the tyres would fail (van has been unused for a year) but only the OSF is an advisory. So in effect we have 'saved' £208 from what we were quoted for them and were expecting to have to fork out (trying hard to justify things here!)

On another positive, we have 2 excellent neighbours who are happy to at least try to sort it for us. They are amateur welders/mechanics and wouldn't want any more than beer tokens as it's their hobby. They are always doing repairs for other neighbours etc and are sound fellas (older guys who have been doing it for years.) One of them has had a quick look underneath (due to the rain) but has said he'll do his best to sort it if poss.

What do you think? Worth giving it a shot knowing it shouldn't cost too much or call it a day? We've spent months on tarting it up to the best of our abilities.

Please remember that we aren't proficient mechanics, just 2 gals who haven't much cash but wanted to have a go and hopefully take it to Glasto with the kiddy - save camping again etc. We don't go away often as we can't afford it and this was the best we could do.

We can't begin to convey our disappointment. The tester is an old mate of my brothers and did say that he's been as kind as poss, only charging us for a car MOT rate as well (£29) so I don't think he's been extra harsh tbh. But we aren't bodywork experts so don't know for certain.

So deflated right now - we thought it would fail, but just on the brakes and maybe a couple of other bits, nowhere near as much as this :cry:

What would you do? (Apart from crack open the beers in despair, like we are doing!)

Thanks for reading, guys :)
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby MinorMatt » Sat May 11, 2013 5:01 pm

NSR inner sill near front mount Suspension spring mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)

NSR near rear mount Suspension spring mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)

Rear near rear mount Suspension spring mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)

Rear crossmember near NSR spring mount Suspension spring mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)


Can't comment without seeing really, but if your neighbours are happy to sort it for you thats good!

NSF d bush Anti-roll bar rubber mounting deteriorated resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)

OSF d bush Anti-roll bar rubber mounting deteriorated resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2)


One of those things that can't fail if its not there... you can remove the antiroll bar, but (assuming you can undo the bolts) replacing the bushes is a fairly easy job (undo bolt, ease metal cover off, remove old bush any way you fee fit, ease new bush on to bar, replace cover and put single bolt back

NSR Rear brake binding (3.7.A.5a)

NSR Rear parking brake recording little or no effort (3.7.A.7a)


You need to take the drum off (take wheel off and pull/lever drum off) and have a look at whats going on inside. I would hazard a guess that the wheel cylinder is sticky and wants replacing

Rear both Stop lamps remain on when the brakes are released (1.2.1e)


Switch will want adjusting back slightly - it acts on the pedal inside the footwell.

Other than the welding its not too bad!
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby fortyeight » Sat May 11, 2013 5:19 pm

cant print what i oridginally posted but i have a leeniant mot tester
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby jonochap » Sat May 11, 2013 5:45 pm

Aw thats not cool...if the welding is done, the rest may not be so bad...maybe if there are a couple of people on here with the bushes or bits you need, then find someone local to fit? As matt said, welding is a pain, the rest is just knowledge and a spanner...cant imagine no one on here lives in derby???? Good luck and keep posting :) :) people on here are amazing :)
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby Marty.H » Sat May 11, 2013 6:19 pm

Even if its a 3500 weight motor home as its a motorhome its a class IV anyway same as a car so can only be charged same as a car MOT ;)
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby MinorMatt » Sat May 11, 2013 6:45 pm

jonochap wrote: As matt said, welding is a pain


Errm thats not quite I said. Welding is actually quite easy - once you know what you are doing!
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby ColinJack » Sat May 11, 2013 7:22 pm

To be honest that doesn't look too bad. I reckon Glasto is still a go. 8)

If your neighbours are reasonable welders then that is the bulk of the work. The rest can be sorted out fairly easily - even by girls :lol:

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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby jonochap » Sat May 11, 2013 7:53 pm

MinorMatt wrote:
jonochap wrote: As matt said, welding is a pain


Errm thats not quite I said. Welding is actually quite easy - once you know what you are doing!


Sorry Matt, meant the second bit of the sentence...that once the welding was out of the way, the rest might be easy...my bad :)

Yes, the bits you all say are probably easy...but can be a pain if you dont have the right tools, the confidence and time to make mistakes :)
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby ColinJack » Sat May 11, 2013 8:01 pm

The other plus is that if you get it sorted now then next year should be a doddle! :wink:
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby jonochap » Sat May 11, 2013 10:14 pm

True dat! :)
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby J.R.Solutions_82 » Sat May 11, 2013 11:40 pm

Are you sure its not a party bus ? cos they are mot excempt, as are a bunch of other special use vehicals... :wink:
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby TeeKay » Tue May 14, 2013 9:35 pm

Hi, just a quick update (which I actually typed up 3 days ago, but I now see that it didn't post for some reason, grrrr!)

Thanks for the replies as usual peeps. Wish it was a party bus, lol! Well, it will be when we get it to Glasto at the end of June! :D

Well, the 2 neighbours bailed out in the end, saying it was too much work for their abilities :(

We were all set to plead on here for anyone to help when the wife's bro in law, Chris, stepped in. He is an experienced welder but lives 100 miles away from us in Norfolk so we didn't think he'd be able to get here easily, but saw our dilemma on Facebook and got in touch so MoHo is on holiday on the East coast for about a week having some cosmetic surgery! We've only met the fella twice (because of distance) so it is a very kind thing to do!

We had an awful day Sunday when he came to get her - he brought his big F**k off car trailer jobby to load MoHo onto, towed by his Landy. Cool. Apart from the fact MoHo was like a gnats b0ll0ck too wide for the trailer :cry: He'd come all that way, presuming it was go on there a piece of p1ss and it was literally 25mm too big! We tried everything possible but it was a no go. We could have cried... (Well, we actually did later on!)

Anyway, we slapped a day insurance on it and thankfully he'd brought his missus, Clare, along (the wife's sister) and so she had the fab task of driving MoHo back again, having never driven a tranny before and also having a history of crashes! :shock: But we didn't have any other option.

It was just a p1sser cos we had to fork out £25 for the day insurance, £30 for the tranny diesel, plus diesel for the family to get here and back of course, so an additional expense of £100 more or less, but at least MoHo and Clare got back there in one piece without the chassis falling out! :lol:

Progress so far is that there is a new handbrake cable on the way tomorrow, save faffing about trying to free the old one, anti roll bar bushes on way at £2.50 each, the footbrake switch is sorted (thanks MinorMatt for the reason why!) plus a fair bit of the rot has been cut out ready to weld new metal on to. Chris actually found that the previous owner (fo0kin 'djvirus' who used to post on this forum) had stuffed paper and expanding foam in the gap around the rotten bits - which just so happens to be extremely near to the fuel tank!!! :shock: I know we can all cut corners and try to get away with things but that's just stupid and reckless IMO.

Anyway, all being well, as long as no more horror stories unfold (and weather permitting) it'll be all done by the end of the weekend, ready to live another day! Sadly, there'll be no progress pics - we thought it a bit cheeky to ask him to do that, lol :lol:

Bill is estimated to be around £200, which suits us fine. We need the work doing and he needs a bit of cash so everyone's a winner. Hopefully...

Wasn't prepared to give up on her that easily after all the work we did ourselves! Just glad that everything that us two did sailed through the MOT! :wink:
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby Marty.H » Tue May 14, 2013 9:44 pm

Would that be chris from silverback manufacturing who does motorbike stuff ?
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby TeeKay » Tue May 14, 2013 9:48 pm

I'm not sure where he works mate - I don't think he does bike stuff, but I'll deffo ask him when I next speak to him - be a weird small world thing if it is eh?! :)
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Re: Major MOT failure - Gutted

Postby Marty.H » Tue May 14, 2013 9:50 pm

Yeh as my mate chris an experienced welder and his misses called clair and he in norfolk spooky if not him :lol:
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