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do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby weseeyou » Mon May 20, 2013 8:15 pm

Thats exactly what I thought on a recent jaunt down to Falmouth for a long weekend.

The old girl has been getting slower and slower on the hills and using more and more diesel over the past year but when we were reduced to 1st gear grinds on some of the hills on the A30 in Devon and less than 30mpg I thought I ought to take a look.

The first thing I noticed was that when the throttle pedal was on the floor the throttle body linkage didn't look like it was opening the butterfly enough.....hmmmm :?
On removing the throttle body intake hose I noticed that at some time in the past it had split and been taped up. ! The tape had now slipped and was blocking 1/3rd of the intake venturi ! blimey no wonder the old gal had slowed down some. This is how the garage left it when the van went in for repairs and a full service and 40 point checkup last year.

I pulled the throttle linkage off and with the pedal on the floor I adjusted it so that I had just over full throttle . I replaced the linkage and adjusted the throttle stop screw so that the butterfly was horizontal at full throttle, just before the pedal hit the floor.

I next re-taped the throttle intake hose temporarily until I can order a new hose. Hopefully they are still available ?

Can't wait to try it out on the hills around the village tomorrow.
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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby weseeyou » Mon May 20, 2013 8:23 pm

god why is this site so difficult on posting images :evil:
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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby blue estate » Mon May 20, 2013 8:25 pm

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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby ColinJack » Mon May 20, 2013 9:48 pm

That's the EGR you are looking at ... not the throttle. This is a diesel not a petrol :wink:

I would remove the inlet manifold and use a blow torch to burn out all the carbon and shite inside. Don't get the manifold too hot or it will melt :)
Blank off the EGR (plates available on eBay for about £3) and lock that EGR flap open; then wind up the mid range fuelling a bit.

Look here - viewtopic.php?f=18&t=3968 - easy peasy. 30 minute job.

Makes a huge difference.
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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby ColinJack » Mon May 20, 2013 9:53 pm

weseeyou wrote:god why is this site so difficult on posting images :evil:


It's not :lol:

Don't use the URL tags - use the IMG tags and stick the link URL in-between them.

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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby weseeyou » Tue May 21, 2013 9:31 am

ColinJack wrote:
weseeyou wrote:god why is this site so difficult on posting images :evil:


It's not :lol:

Don't use the URL tags - use the IMG tags and stick the link URL in-between them.

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I tried that at first naturally but it wouldn't work last night. i kept getting taken to a 'facility unavailable 'page ?? the only way I could post an image was to use the url tags for some reason. :?
lets see if it will allow me to post an image link today.
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ok there is the same fault still.

The first page that I saw still had a message saying page unavailable or something but after at least 15 seconds it changed to the usual 'message has been posted succesfully .
It seems that the page refresh rate on this site last night was particularly slow for some reason.Its often like that on here
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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby weseeyou » Tue May 21, 2013 9:47 am

ColinJack wrote:That's the EGR you are looking at ... not the throttle. This is a diesel not a petrol :wink:

well call it what you like ,my point was that the air intake which was being starved of air. :wink:

Its a bummer getting old I tell you. everyone picks you up all the time on the mistakes you make with discriptive words . grrrr

Ok today I'll tie the ERG butterfly up as per the guide and adjust the fuel pump flow rate which is something I've been meaning to do for 2 years and never got around to.
Thanks for the clarification and advice , much appreciated



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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby MinorMatt » Tue May 21, 2013 10:10 am

You see where photobucket has the IMG box? Click on the text next to it and it will automatically copy what needs to go in to the forum. Then just paste where you want it...

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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby ColinJack » Tue May 21, 2013 10:17 am

I'm older than you are ;)
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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby awdriver96 » Tue May 21, 2013 10:25 am

Better ( and safer) to use a power washer on the inlet manifold when you have it off, it cleans it in seconds. Then carefully scrape any oily carbon out of the inlet ports as well ( no powerwas here :lol: ) and you will be really back to full power. The butterfly throttle housing serves several purposes as well as helping the egr to work, but is not really needed if you blank the egr off. The carbon soot from the egr mixes with oil vapour from the breather to effectively block of the inlet ports eventually, what a sensible idea from Ford!!!. Once the soot is stopped the traces of oil vapour help to keep the passages clear!
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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby ColinJack » Tue May 21, 2013 10:46 am

Don't forget to blank the EGR pipe before tying up the butterfly ;)
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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby weseeyou » Tue May 21, 2013 10:53 am

[quote="MinorMatt"]You see where photobucket has the IMG box? Click on the text next to it and it will automatically copy what needs to go in to the forum. Then just paste where you want it...

yes thanks matt but it was not working last night !

I think the page refresh rate on this site was unusually slow and my post was continually being sent to a holding page saying something to the effect of ' page not available now' or something like that.

I cut the number of images down to 2x hoping that that would help but it didn't.

The same thing happened this morning but it only showed the holding page for 15 seconds then it posted my post with photobucket link.

Photobucket is incredibly slow at the moment and I haven't used it for many months prior to last night Some of the images I uploaded were not showing on my PB page at all and I had to upload 2x images 3x times before they were visible on PB.
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Success at last ! it seems it is the img text copying feature on photobucket that is working intermittently. Maybe the site was being overloaded last night.
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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby weseeyou » Tue May 21, 2013 11:02 am

ColinJack wrote:Don't forget to blank the EGR pipe before tying up the butterfly ;)


can you link to the guide please ?

there is nothing about having to blank off the erg pipe in this guide here ?http://fordtransit.org/articles/engine/how-get-power-mk5-di
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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby ColinJack » Tue May 21, 2013 3:46 pm

awdriver96 wrote:Better ( and safer) to use a power washer on the inlet manifold when you have it off, it cleans it in seconds.

Not as much fun though! I used a blow torch followed by a quick scrub with a brush and petrol :lol:
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Re: do you ever feel you should have more go ?

Postby weseeyou » Tue May 21, 2013 8:22 pm

ColinJack wrote:I'm older than you are ;)


:D guess I'm just getting dementia earlier than you then ! :lol:
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