Pinto into Mk5 = LEZ Compliance

[dodgetotransit]

me i could not give a monkey's what brand of engine i use, all im interested in is mpg and getting up hills with out screaming in 4th at 45 to get 50 55 after being at a steady 60 mph, my problem is is iv got a dore wedge over the cab and would like to got to ace cafe once in a while . but to be honist is probably not worth changing any thing for the reasons i state , i dont mind keeping it di or put a turbo on or change the injectors for a 100 ps any thing to get up hills, but that is transit for you , lol tractors all day long, cant help loving them even when there so slow. but very good on the old pocket hay. 40 miles to £10 cant complain at that just to damn slow.

[robbie.cee]

id be well pissed off if only 40 miles to £10 0f fuel! = 7 ish liters

[dodgetotransit]

id be well pissed off if only 40 miles to £10 0f fuel! = 7 ish liters

lol my dodge did that on 25 ish notes so yes im happy lol.

[enjoythistripp]

Just bought a LDV Convoy Luton van. Y839 ACL. May 2001. Fitted with a 2,4td duratorqu transit engine. I have done an lez search for this forum and ldv forums with little luck to my answer.

According to the lez compliance checker (were you put the reg in) my van does not meet the conditions and is not exempt. However this link

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/roadusers/lez/early-adopters.pdf

It states ford transits from July 2000 meet the new standard. My engine was retro fitted to transits from that date, so I believe the engine in my van is the same as the ford transit engine and meets lez guidelines.

The link above says to contact the manafacturer to get a letter stating the van/engine meets the criteria and is then lez compliant. LEZ are no more

Can anyone help?? Sure someone has been here before me already. especially the lez conversion guys.

thanks guys

[dieselhead123]

Hi there, you might be a bit stuck with this one, sorry to say.

When you contact TFL, we have done this a few times for customers and for some of our sales vehicles, TFL will ask you to get a letter from the manufacturer stating that the vehicle is EURO3. TFL will NOT accept that the log book states that the vehicle meets EEC Deepol2000, (check your log book for type approval specs), despite the fact that EURO3 is part of Deepol2000!
The only solution is a letter from the manufacturer, on headed paper, stating that the vehicle is EURO3, this letter also needs to state the vehicle reg number AND vin number. You will also need to complete the application form, downloadable as a PDF from the TFL site, and provide a copy of your log book, the vehicle must be registered in the applicants name, they will NOT do this if the vehicle is on the yellow 'trade slip'.
Your problem will be getting a letter from a now defunct manufacturer. Had it been a Peugeot, Citroen or Iveco, I could have provided you with phone numbers for 'customer services' who would assist.

I am afraid that the only option you have is a petrol conversioin.

TIM

[AndyG]

Just bought a LDV Convoy Luton van. Y839 ACL. May 2001. Fitted with a 2,4td duratorqu transit engine. I have done an lez search for this forum and ldv forums with little luck to my answer.

According to the lez compliance checker (were you put the reg in) my van does not meet the conditions and is not exempt. However this link

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/roadusers/lez/early-adopters.pdf

It states ford transits from July 2000 meet the new standard. My engine was retro fitted to transits from that date, so I believe the engine in my van is the same as the ford transit engine and meets lez guidelines.

The link above says to contact the manafacturer to get a letter stating the van/engine meets the criteria and is then lez compliant. LDV are no more

Can anyone help?? Sure someone has been here before me already. especially the lez conversion guys.

thanks guys

Well I'm afraid you've got it wrong, as your van would be fitted with a Di engine 2496cc (2500cc) and NOT the Duratorq 2402cc (2.4)
LDV continued fitting the older Di (and especially the Turbo Di 100PS engine) well beyond 2000 and you can find 2002 registered LDV Convoys with a Di in it
It could be one of the reasons that the LEZ initially applied to all pre 2002 diesel vans, before they discovered that some manufacturers were well ahead of the euro game

[enjoythistripp]

i have a lwb 190 luton dropwell so the final 3l v6 option sounds great and with a high final diff should give 15-20mpg on a 50mph cruise. Any idea of installation costs if i can find the v6? I'd bring it to you guys seeming your doing this and know how to, 2 many cowboy experts in my woods lol

[dieselhead123]

i have a lwb 190 luton dropwell so the final 3l v6 option sounds great and with a high final diff should give 15-20mpg on a 50mph cruise. Any idea of installation costs if i can find the v6? I'd bring it to you guys seeming your doing this and know how to, 2 many cowboy experts in my woods lol

Hi there, yes the V6 Essex conversions have been sorted and would be ideal for a lwb luton.
The engines are available on ebay, there seem to be quite a few crop up in the northern end of the country, so should be fairly easy to source for you.

We would be happy to carry out the conversion for you although it is quite a distance for you to travel! It might be possible to find a forum member closer to you that would be happy to assist, naturally we would provide all the technical assistance that is required.

We could produce things like the wiring loom and coolant hose sets for you if that would help, we could even do a 'dummy fit' of your engine in our 'test bed', (the Surrogate Mother), to ensure that all is well prior to dispatching you the parts. We would need to know if your van is a Mk3 or 4 or 5 though, as some of the ancillary parts vary slightly.

Please feel free to call the works number, 07754 806004 if you wish to discuss this further.

TIM

[Altransit]

We would need to know if your van is a Mk3 or 4 or 5 though, as some of the ancillary parts vary slightly.

From his above post, it's an LDV Convoy, Tim

[dieselhead123]

If it is the LDV Convoy with the 2.5di you want to convert, then no problem.

The adapter plate will fit the gearbox as in the Transit, as far as I am aware, the Convoy uses Mk5 di engine mountings, so our Transit conversion ones will fit. The PAS plates will also fit, so just a bit of wiring, plumbing and the exhausts to sort.

'Simples'

TIM

[Altransit]

The PAS plates will also fit, so just a bit of wiring, plumbing and the exhausts to sort.

'Simples'

TIM

Is that allowing for the fact that a Convoy has a PS box, and not a rack, Tim

[AndyG]

Tim does magic

[Altransit]

Tim does magic

I know, I know, but even Gods have their off days

[dieselhead123]

The PAS plates will also fit, so just a bit of wiring, plumbing and the exhausts to sort.

'Simples'

TIM

Is that allowing for the fact that a Convoy has a PS box, and not a rack, Tim

The adapter plate for the PAS allows the power steering pump fitted to the di engine to be bolted to the Essex engine, LDV used the Transit pump when they fitted the di in the Convoy, they just altered the pipes to connect to the steering box.
I think that this would be a good conversion for a Convoy, much better than the 2.0 DOHC Ford engine available from the factory as these seem to lack the torque required for such a large and potentially heavy van.

TIM

[enjoythistripp]

Might petrol the convoy, but i was referring to the big blue drop-well luton you can see on my website. I now have no choice in replacing the engine as it went bang on a very big hill near bodkin lol. I have no choice. I do have a spare td engine but no, this is my main removal van so petrol and later lpg is the way. I have lost thousands not going into London. As for the distance to London, that's not a problem. The only transit specialist up north is in Sheffield, i don't trust local garages up here, some are cheap but take forever, others cow boys. As you guys seem to be experts so to say with this thread and are doing lots of conversions i'd be happy to motor to London to get a good job, will call the mobile tomorrow as need an ide of cost. I'll look at fle bay tonight for an engine.

Any forum memeber feeling confident enough to do this however is free to pm me.

Will the v6 also work well with my later planned lpg conversion?