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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby Honey monster » Sun May 15, 2011 12:33 pm

mk5 baby wrote:
MrMPuk wrote:You wonder why people take the piss. :roll:


Yeah I can see why but also put that down to lack of manners aswell

I'm a awkward person why do you think when I buy parts I get them for what I want to pay for them not the other way around.

Wether people might call me a tosser etc behind my back could not give 2 monkeys.

Might seem like a small argument Mr Puk but please don't think that I always like to fight both sides of the story even if one side seem stupid to proceed with.

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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby MrMPuk » Sun May 15, 2011 1:30 pm

Honey monster wrote:Are you on drugs?

You could be on to something, although I'm not sure they are working.
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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby ginsambo » Sun May 15, 2011 1:54 pm

Honey monster wrote:Are you on drugs?
.....or pmt female...? :lol:

You can drop the entire front subframe with springs, rack, wishbones and wheels still attached, three bolts either side with captive nuts on welded plates inside the chassis, if the front chassis legs need welding. I would hazard a guess that the advisory bits that will need doing in the future are the inner sleeved front chassis leg rotting inside outside chassis member in the area under the wheel arch and top shock mounts on the inner arch from bulkhead back.

If you cut out the floor and unpick the spot welds from the chassis leg, it is feasible to take out the front chassis leg inner part completely and repair, this was a common and viable accident repair back on new transits in the day, just make sure you have a jig and exacting tolerances otherwise it won't go back together again, or won't drive right. Also sleeve if just cutting out randomly as you don't want to snap it.

Anything forward of the subframe mounts is just decorative....sorry I mean carefully designed for crash deformation charactoristics.
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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby mk5 baby » Sun May 15, 2011 5:42 pm

Are you on drugs?[/quote]

Nope
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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby mk5 baby » Sun May 15, 2011 5:45 pm

MrMPuk wrote:
Honey monster wrote:Are you on drugs?

You could be on to something, although I'm not sure they are working.


You are really rude Mr MPUK did your mother teach you any manners (guess not)

I've heard your opinion taken some advice on board now kindly do one will you :twisted:

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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby 75psT330lwb » Sun May 15, 2011 6:42 pm

can i just add that some of his posts may seem rude to some people, just like mine. this is a forum where u come for advice. You are asking people what have extremely good knowledge of all transits and are trying to guide u to the best way of resolving ur problems(thats why forums exist) :wink: . however, lately there seems to be a hell of a lot of posts asking for advice on certain things which they obviously know nothing about, but choose to ignore it and sometimes make it out as though they are trying to lead u down the wrong path :roll: information on here is only posted if its known for certain that its right and in some cases if unsure, it will be mentioned. we're here to help so please listen to the advice given and dont take it the wrong way :D
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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby DKR1966 » Sun May 15, 2011 6:55 pm

75psT330lwb wrote:can i just add that some of his posts may seem rude to some people, just like mine. this is a forum where u come for advice. You are asking people what have extremely good knowledge of all transits and are trying to guide u to the best way of resolving ur problems(thats why forums exist) :wink: . however, lately there seems to be a hell of a lot of posts asking for advice on certain things which they obviously know nothing about, but choose to ignore it and sometimes make it out as though they are trying to lead u down the wrong path :roll: information on here is only posted if its known for certain that its right and in some cases if unsure, it will be mentioned. we're here to help so please listen to the advice given and dont take it the wrong way :D

I can vouch for that in the two years I have been on here all my various questions no matter how stupid they may seem have allways been answered, and lead me in the right direction to fixing/sorting out my van.
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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby rhubarb » Sun May 15, 2011 7:40 pm

Well in twenty years of being in the motor trade I've never replaced a Transit subframe, but I've welded plenty of rusty transit chassis and bodies up :lol:
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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby madbri » Sun May 15, 2011 8:19 pm

rhubarb wrote:Well in twenty years of being in the motor trade I've never replaced a Transit subframe, but I've welded plenty of rusty transit chassis and bodies up :lol:

x 10000000 :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby davew2 » Sun May 15, 2011 8:31 pm

rhubarb wrote:Well in twenty years of being in the motor trade I've never replaced a Transit subframe, but I've welded plenty of rusty transit chassis and bodies up :lol:

So what you saying he dosent need a subframe then :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby Altransit » Sun May 15, 2011 9:51 pm

mk5 baby wrote: I've heard your opinion taken some advice on board now kindly do one will you :twisted:

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So ........ is that not being rude also :?: It's quite hard trying to help you, when you ignore all of the good advice given, whilst choosing to keep on about an unnecessary course of action :roll:

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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby maciejd » Mon May 16, 2011 10:53 pm

Without any photos of the area I can only guess the advisory is about same story as mine - chasiss members.

I can't imagine the surface rust on the subframe/suspension cross member can be subject for an advisory. Is this part able to be eaten by rust seriously? :)

Don't want to be an evil here but... looking at other Transits (especially mk5s?) the subject to worry about are the chasiss members around the subframe mounting points and backward. The rust that looks as a surface one indeed is only top of an iceberg. Steel members profiles are welded here together for better strenght of double layer. After some years inbetween these profiles, around the welding points, there is plenty of rust invisible externally or looking just like light innocent surface rust... until the profile is not completely corroded, but then it might be too late to do anything despite replacing whole members to brand new - what might be basically considered as economic nonsense today.

You want the truth? Just take a hammer and check what is going on and where the true rust areas are.

I'm going through this these days (viewtopic.php?f=27&t=89169&p=760091#p760091). I'm not sure if this is being done right but have to believe the man I engaged knows what he's doing. Cost - approx 800 Euro.
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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby ginsambo » Mon May 16, 2011 11:37 pm

maciejd wrote:Without any photos of the area I can only guess the advisory is about same story as mine - chasiss members.

I can't imagine the surface rust on the subframe/suspension cross member can be subject for an advisory. Is this part able to be eaten by rust seriously? :)

Don't want to be an evil here but... looking at other Transits (especially mk5s?) the subject to worry about are the chasiss members around the subframe mounting points and backward. The rust that looks as a surface one indeed is only top of an iceberg. Steel members profiles are welded here together for better strenght of double layer. After some years inbetween these profiles, around the welding points, there is plenty of rust invisible externally or looking just like light innocent surface rust... until the profile is not completely corroded, but then it might be too late to do anything despite replacing whole members to brand new - what might be basically considered as economic nonsense today.

You want the truth? Just take a hammer and check what is going on and where the true rust areas are.

I'm going through this these days (viewtopic.php?f=27&t=89169&p=760091#p760091). I'm not sure if this is being done right but have to believe the man I engaged knows what he's doing. Cost - approx 800 Euro.


Exactly what I said... :lol: Did you sleeve the new chassis section? Surely there is a fair chance of it snapping if you don't?
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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby rhubarb » Mon May 16, 2011 11:39 pm

but remember, you can't polish a turd :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Front Subframe Kit MK5 190 6 Stud

Postby MrMPuk » Mon May 16, 2011 11:43 pm

rhubarb wrote:but remember, you can't polish a turd :lol: :lol: :lol:

You say that but..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI
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