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Timing belt

Postby oldyellar » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:06 pm

Can anyone point me in the right direction of the best quality di timing belt and tensioner kit? Do ford still do them? Thanks
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Re: Timing belt

Postby Chug » Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:18 pm

Standard 25.4mm belt or turbo with 28mm belt?
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1135358 = 25.4 mm belt kit
1136426 = 28 mm belt kit

https://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/oenumber/1135358.html

https://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/oenumber/1136426.html
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Re: Timing belt

Postby twin wheel camper » Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:09 pm

Chuggy wrote:Standard 25.4mm belt or turbo with 28mm belt?
part nos
1135358 = 25.4 mm belt kit
1136426 = 28 mm belt kit

https://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/oenumber/1135358.html

https://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/oenumber/1136426.html



The wider belt isn’t anything to do with turbo or non turbo, it’s age related approx late 1997 onwards is the 28mm belt.
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Re: Timing belt

Postby Chug » Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:36 pm

Yeah I think 28mm was from July 1997, dunno why I put turbo, probably coz the only one I've had with 28mm belt was a turbo :oops:
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Re: Timing belt

Postby angusp » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:33 pm

Use 'gates' belts & tensioner on mine.
2000 mk5 100 swb, going.
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Re: Timing belt

Postby gotgcoalman » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:12 am

I always get a "branded" one from my local motor factor.
Buy off fleabay and risk getting a "fail soon chineesium copy"

think my last one was a Dayco or Gates.
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Re: Timing belt

Postby bambi mk 1 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:20 am

gotgcoalman wrote:I always get a "branded" one from my local motor factor.
Buy off fleabay and risk getting a "fail soon chineesium copy"

think my last one was a Dayco or Gates.

I wouldnt use a Gates Transit belt for holding up my trousers,Dayco all the way :)
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Re: Timing belt

Postby twin wheel camper » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:47 am

bambi mk 1 wrote:
gotgcoalman wrote:I always get a "branded" one from my local motor factor.
Buy off fleabay and risk getting a "fail soon chineesium copy"

think my last one was a Dayco or Gates.

I wouldnt use a Gates Transit belt for holding up my trousers,Dayco all the way :)



I tend to agree the last time I fitted one to my TD the belt seemed ok but the tensioner was made of the softest steel I’ve ever seen :evil: I had a hell of a job getting the belt tensioned because the little 6mm Allen key (from memory) just twisted the centre out of itself and I was using a good quality tight fitting Allen bit :x
Next time I 100% won’t be buying a gates kit.
I have no experience with Dayco but will keep them in mind next time around :wink:
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Re: Timing belt

Postby Altransit » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:55 am

bambi mk 1 wrote: I wouldnt use a Gates Transit belt for holding up my trousers,Dayco all the way :)

That's an interesting comment, (because I trust your judgement), as I have a couple of Dayco belts in the garage, that I bought when I had the Mk5. I bought one of each size, because being a July '97 build, I wasn't sure which it had.

When I actually changed the belt, I ended up buying and using a genuine Ford kit because of being told (at the time) that Dayco were
cheap and nasty

That not being the case, I'll dig them out and sell them 8)
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Re: Timing belt

Postby bambi mk 1 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:39 am

I never use the modified tensioner as I consider the original far more robust :wink: Gates belts are a no no due to some breaking at less than 15 hundred miles :evil: When you look at the 1.8 d mk 3 Fiesta the belt broke just by looking at them till Ford changed their oe supplier that had a teflon coating on the teeth an guess who the supplier was :?: Yes you have it in one Dayco :) I never had one break at less than 100k :)
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Re: Timing belt

Postby Chug » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:55 am

Altransit wrote:
bambi mk 1 wrote: I wouldnt use a Gates Transit belt for holding up my trousers,Dayco all the way :)

That's an interesting comment, (because I trust your judgement), as I have a couple of Dayco belts in the garage, that I bought when I had the Mk5. I bought one of each size, because being a July '97 build, I wasn't sure which it had.

When I actually changed the belt, I ended up buying and using a genuine Ford kit because of being told (at the time) that Dayco were
cheap and nasty

That not being the case, I'll dig them out and sell them 8)


I'll have a look and if I haven't got one in me spares collection I'll be Interested in the 28mm one Al?
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Re: Timing belt

Postby Altransit » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:03 pm

Chuggy wrote: I'll have a look and if I haven't got one in me spares collection I'll be Interested in the 28mm one Al?

8) :)
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Re: Timing belt

Postby V184 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:03 pm

bambi mk 1 wrote:I never use the modified tensioner as I consider the original far more robust :wink: Gates belts are a no no due to some breaking at less than 15 hundred miles :evil: When you look at the 1.8 d mk 3 Fiesta the belt broke just by looking at them till Ford changed their oe supplier that had a teflon coating on the teeth an guess who the supplier was :?: Yes you have it in one Dayco :) I never had one break at less than 100k :)


Always used the modified auto tensioner, the earlier spring tension ones with a late Bosch pump 25k if lucky regardless of it being the later wider belt. The very early di had a different belt i think so 3 different ones ? ( no doubt i will be told if wrong :lol: )
100k on a 1.8 d belts good luck with that, just change the fan belt, idlers etc at 36k :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Timing belt

Postby Chug » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:02 pm

V184 wrote: The very early di had a different belt i think so 3 different ones ? ( no doubt i will be told if wrong :lol: )

Yes early DI's had a different belt (No 6138677) but I thought oldyellar had a later Transit so didn't mention it to avoid any confusion :D
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Re: Timing belt

Postby wojciech » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:55 pm

V184 wrote:The very early di had a different belt i think so 3 different ones ? ( no doubt i will be told if wrong :lol: )

- 1984 - 1992 belt with teeth 2,5 mm high, width 25,4 mm 6138677 (844F-6K288-AB)
- 1992 - 09/1997 belt with higher teeth 3,5 mm, the same width 25,4 mm 1135355 (1C1Q-6K288-BA)
- 09/1997 - 2000 belt with the same teeth height 3,5 mm, but wider 27,6 - 28,0 mm 1135354 (1C1Q-6K288-AA)
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