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2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby Ransettimies » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:55 pm

I have bosch original pump on my 95 transit.

I adjusted main fuel screw and idle rised so there is now more fuel? "Problem" is that my car wont smoke black even i screwed more fuel.

There is smoke screw top of the pump under metal cap. Do inhave to adjust it also? Im not looking just black smoke but little bit black smoke tells me that there is some horsepower gain :D



So now i just think main fuel screw only rised idle but not fuel. Btw i adjusted idle back to normal with lever screw.
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby Ransettimies » Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:44 pm

Thank you. Is main fuel screw adjust useless?
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby gotgcoalman » Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:52 pm

One is for more umphhh and the other is to go a bit faster with the extra unphhh you have achieved

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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby Keef » Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:22 am

Ransettimies wrote:Thank you. Is main fuel screw adjust useless?


Main fuel screw only increases maximum fuel at full revs therefore top speed. The other adjustment should improve acceleration/torque
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby Ransettimies » Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:27 pm

Yeah now i feel the low end torque :D


Street corners can be driven easily with 3rd gear instead 2nd before
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby Ransettimies » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:27 pm

It was fine long time ago until i turned screw more. Performance was good but fuel mileage dropped little bit.


Yesteray i tried turn it back but now it smokes even more :D


Is there some stock position if i turn screw counterclockwise and then clockwise some turns?
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby andypdq » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:16 pm

Adjusting the main fuel screw shifts the whole range of fueling up or down, That's why if you turn the main fuel screw in a substantial amount, you have to re adjust idle speed. Adjusting the torque top adjusts fuel distribution characteristics within that range.
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby cherniy_chack » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:58 pm

If you turn the screw clockwise, then the fuel supply increases, if you turn the screw counterclockwise, then the fuel supply decreases.
So they write on the Russian-language forums Ford Transit.
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The hydraulic corrector piston acts on the feed regulator, limiting the maximum fuel supply.
The piston is forced by spring compression, which is set by the adjusting screw and the fuel pressure in the fuel pump housing, this pressure also controls the injection timing, pushing it forward with increasing engine speed and increasing fuel delivery at high speeds.
When the screw is turned clockwise, the compression force of the spring decreases, the feed increases.
If your motor smokes, then the propeller must be turned counterclockwise.
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby Ransettimies » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:16 pm

Yes ive turned many times counterclockwise but still too much smoke.


Thats why i asked stock position, example , counterclockwise untill it stops and then 1.5 turns clockwise etc
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby MinorMatt » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:39 pm

Ransettimies wrote:Yes ive turned many times counterclockwise but still too much smoke.


Thats why i asked stock position, example , counterclockwise untill it stops and then 1.5 turns clockwise etc


There is no "stock" position... sorry
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby Ransettimies » Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:00 pm

Damn

Will it run if screw is all way up?


Ive turned about three times counterclockwise and still black smoke comes and engine pulls like bull.


Black smoke and "performance" is not bad, just want my fue economy back
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby andypdq » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:19 am

Just to clear things up, The vane pump pressurises fuel in the main body of the pump, the pressure regulator, next to the fuel inlet port controls the pressure of the fuel in the pump body, relative to rpm, which affects the rate of timing advance, if you knock the pin down on the pressure regulator it increases pump pressure relative to pump speed, which increases the rate of advance.

This has little effect on total fuelling, that is controlled by the fuelling levers, throttle position and governor spring rate. All the main fuel screw does is move the control levers wholesale, which shifts fuelling range.

If you're running the pump on a turbo engine then it never will fuel ideally because for that you need a boost pressure compensator, rather than the fuel pressure regulated torque top designed for the NA engine.
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby Keef » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:35 am

Just a thought here and I don't even know if this is possible but if the torque sleeve sticks the syptoms are normally the opposite of the symptoms you are experiencing.
Could the torque sleeve stick at the other end of its travel thus giving great pull but smoke and poor fuel economy?
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Re: 2.5DI fuel pump/smoke adjust

Postby andypdq » Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:40 am

Correction, if you increase internal fuel pressure by adjusting the pressure regulator with the NA torque top, you will increase fuelling and timing at any given engine speed. :oops:
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