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Starter motor or ring gear ?

Postby AndyG » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:49 pm

Starter motor doesn't engage the flywheel for more than a split second then just spins freely :( If I keep trying it will eventually catch enough to start the engine :D
Water/wetness was well spotted by 100ps_drw_hicube on top of the starter motor and looks like the condensation from the aircon :shock: Could this be the problem :?:

Has any one taken apart/cleaned one of these little starter motors :?: Could it have gone rusty inside :?:
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:04 am

my dad took his little starter apart cleaned it all up put it back on worked excellent but after about 3 goes it started spinning again :? so he got a new one :( if /when you take starter off check ring gear for any damage :? :D hope this helps :roll: :lol:
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Postby AndyG » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:10 am

:o If :?: I don't think i've got a choice :!: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Will take it off tommorow and if it doesn't look clever I'll have to get an exchange one :roll: :D
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:13 am

have a go mate you never know :shock: :D :lol: just be carefull of the poxy battery everytime i go near the starter i get a shock :shock: :oops: :oops:
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Postby AndyG » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:16 am

What do you mean shock :?
It's only 12volts :o
I will be disconecting both batteries anyway :D :wink:
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:19 am

shocking enough :lol: :lol: both batteries :shock: :?:
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Postby AndyG » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:22 am

Well I'm glad they're still workking at six years old :D :D :D
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Postby AndyG » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:36 pm

100ps_drw_hicube wrote:when you take starter off check ring gear for any damage :? :D hope this helps :roll: :lol:


No it doesn't :shock: 'Cause if it is, the only help would be if you come round and take the transmission out for me so that I can change the ring gear :D
I understand that you have first hand experience of A4lde s :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby 100ps_drw_hicube » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:38 pm

:? so the ring gear has gone :? :shock: hmmm :? :? well it is definately a 2 person job :lol: and a messy one too :x what ever you do dont leave it up on ramps you might find the van stolen :P :lol: :lol:
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Postby gemini » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:47 pm

sounds like the starter at fault, its spinning but not shooting out to mesh with the ring gear
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Postby AndyG » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:51 pm

It's about to come out :!: :D
Is it fixable or is it gonna be an exchange :?:
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Postby gemini » Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:09 pm

if you put power to it on the bench you can see whats happening, one of the terminals shoots the cog out the other will spin it, ive had them working perfect on the bench but wouldnt shoot out when fitted :? it could just need stripping and cleaning
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Postby AndyG » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:49 pm

Well it's out :!:
The ring gear seams okay :D It's obviously got shiney edges where the motor was (trying) engaging :D

The motor looks good and lubed at the sliding pinion part so it must be in the windings of the throw out part of the starter motor :( :( :(
Now the hunt is on :!:
Maybe an independant or possibly partco :?: But just for fun I'll ring Fords :shock: :!: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby rover » Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:14 pm

The gear-reduction type starter is about £100 from motor factors for a Valeo recon (keep away from R.E recons they are good about 30% of the time), I've only ever bought one Ford one and it was £165 at the time (6years or so ago).

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Postby AndyG » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:32 pm

So a Valeo is recommended :D
Cheers rover :wink:
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