Cannot select a gear mk7 transit, linkages all good tho?

[jaypr1]

Recently changed the engine in my mk7 6speed, after putting the 'recon' engine in and connecting the gearbox up it seems gear selection no longer results in a gear, the wheels just spin.

Is it possible that a seized engine could prevent gear selection?

How can my mk7 6 speed act like it is in neutral even though i have selected 2nd gear?
I have an unknown status gearbox in the vehicle, currently the engine does not work, is it correct that with the engine not running I should be able to select gears for say example a bump start.
Currently it seems that whatever gear i select the box acts as if in neutral, eg the wheels spin but the box doesn't.

The 2 linkages are properly connected and I think the clutch works but it is hard to tell with the current 'neutral' behaviour.

Can the box go so bad that what looks like a valid selection position doesn't engage a gear?

Love to know what is up, probably going to have to remove the gearbox again

[knobby1]

Recently changed the engine in my mk7 6speed, after putting the 'recon' engine in and connecting the gearbox up it seems gear selection no longer results in a gear, the wheels just spin.

Is it possible that a seized engine could prevent gear selection?

How can my mk7 6 speed act like it is in neutral even though i have selected 2nd gear?
I have an unknown status gearbox in the vehicle, currently the engine does not work, is it correct that with the engine not running I should be able to select gears for say example a bump start.
Currently it seems that whatever gear i select the box acts as if in neutral, eg the wheels spin but the box doesn't.

The 2 linkages are properly connected and I think the clutch works but it is hard to tell with the current 'neutral' behaviour.

Can the box go so bad that what looks like a valid selection position doesn't engage a gear?

Love to know what is up, probably going to have to remove the gearbox again

FWD or RWD..?? You don't say which you have. Is it the original gearbox..?? Was the clutch replaced..?? Do "both" wheels spin in the same direction at the same time when in gear..?? Or are you just spinning one wheel at a time..??

If FWD, are the inner drive shaft CV joints fully seated into the gearbox..??

Lord Knobrot

[T350camper]

How are you checking the gearbox? As Lord knobrot says...are the wheels spinning in the same direction? If you have both drive wheels off the ground (regardless of FWD or RWD) and rotate one wheel by hand, then the opposite wheel will rotate in the opposite direction if a gear is selected. This is not a fault, just the differential acting in the the easiest way. The other wheel is easier to turn than the engine. With only one wheel suspended and the other locked or on the ground then this will not happen.

[jaypr1]

Thanks for your help, it is a fwd. The gearbox and bell housing is the original 2007 item.
But the engine is a recon with the slightly higher rated injectors and pump.
I have now removed the gearbox and bell housing and discovered that the face of the clutch assembly fouls on the interior of the bell housing holding it fast.
As such the engine appears siezed with it fitted. It rotates fine when not fitted.
The gearbox rotates and operates properly once removed, worth noting that the box stayed stuck in neutral all the time it was fitted, selections appeared to work (sounds ok) but did not select any gear successfully.
Can anyone let me know if there is a type of clutch (I don't know what it is it came with the recon) has stamp with f0803 (5?) That would stick out further and foul my 6speed box in this way.
I can't seem to figure out if it is dual mass or single flywheel? Are the clutch/flywheel assemblies different in depth.
Sadly my old clutch flywheel and engine have been dumped so I cannot measure it.
Many thanks to those on this forum.

[knobby1]

Thanks for your help, it is a fwd. The gearbox and bell housing is the original 2007 item.
But the engine is a recon with the slightly higher rated injectors and pump.
I have now removed the gearbox and bell housing and discovered that the face of the clutch assembly fouls on the interior of the bell housing holding it fast.
As such the engine appears siezed with it fitted. It rotates fine when not fitted.
The gearbox rotates and operates properly once removed, worth noting that the box stayed stuck in neutral all the time it was fitted, selections appeared to work (sounds ok) but did not select any gear successfully.
Can anyone let me know if there is a type of clutch (I don't know what it is it came with the recon) has stamp with f0803 (5?) That would stick out further and foul my 6speed box in this way.
I can't seem to figure out if it is dual mass or single flywheel? Are the clutch/flywheel assemblies different in depth.
Sadly my old clutch flywheel and engine have been dumped so I cannot measure it.
Many thanks to those on this forum.

No such thing as "higher rated injectors and pump", someone is taking you for a ride.

There are several different flywheels and clutches for the Transits, FWD, RWD, SMF, DMF, 5 speed and 6 speed...they are not interchangeable.....appears you may have the wrong flywheel/clutch fitted. Do the friction disc splines fit the input shaft of the gearbox..??

Lord Knobrot

[jaypr1]

Thank Lord Knobrot, yes the spline fits the shaft, i guess I have a clutch that is not meant for the gearbox then, I will see if the peeps who sold me the engine can supply a matching gearbox, I thought that it must be a different clutch and flywheel, are there identifying marks on these?
As for the injectors I don't have a clue, I was told there are 2 types for the 2.2 and the new engine set has different serials, I will look them up, pump came with new engine, but the ecu is my original, I understand some ecu re config is necessary sometimes using some software but not always. Either way it's good to know that there are clutch and flywheel combos that won't work with my gearbox so mystery solved. Really appreciate your help.

[knobby1]

Thank Lord Knobrot, yes the spline fits the shaft, i guess I have a clutch that is not meant for the gearbox then, I will see if the peeps who sold me the engine can supply a matching gearbox, I thought that it must be a different clutch and flywheel, are there identifying marks on these?
As for the injectors I don't have a clue, I was told there are 2 types for the 2.2 and the new engine set has different serials, I will look them up, pump came with new engine, but the ecu is my original, I understand some ecu re config is necessary sometimes using some software but not always. Either way it's good to know that there are clutch and flywheel combos that won't work with my gearbox so mystery solved. Really appreciate your help.

There are only two gearboxes for the Mk7 FWD's, either 5 or 6 speed...there are 2 different final drive ratios for each but each of the gearboxes themselves are identical.

https://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l ... NysxMzM%3D

You have a 6 speed so essentially you only have the one type, either 4.36:1 or 4.93:1 final drive ratio.

With the flywheels, there are two for the 6 speed, either single mass or dual mass.

https://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l ... OSsxMzM%3D

For the clutch itself, there are only two, one for the 5 speed and one for the 6 speed....they are different. There is also a different clutch for the Euro-5 but you have a Euro-4 so you need to make sure you have the correct one.

https://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l ... EzMw%3D%3D

With the fuel pumps, there is only one for the Euro-4...so basically no choice...how you have an "uprated pump" is a mystery.??

https://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l ... EzMw%3D%3D

With your injectors, the 85 & 110 have one part number, the 115, 130 & 140 use another. Simple as that....there are no "uprated" injectors, either they are the correct ones, or not.

https://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l ... g4NzkrMTMz

The learns need to be done when you finally get it running.... or it will never run correctly.

Lord Knobrot

[andz327]

Thanks for your help, it is a fwd. The gearbox and bell housing is the original 2007 item.
But the engine is a recon with the slightly higher rated injectors and pump.
I have now removed the gearbox and bell housing and discovered that the face of the clutch assembly fouls on the interior of the bell housing holding it fast.
As such the engine appears siezed with it fitted. It rotates fine when not fitted.
The gearbox rotates and operates properly once removed, worth noting that the box stayed stuck in neutral all the time it was fitted, selections appeared to work (sounds ok) but did not select any gear successfully.
Can anyone let me know if there is a type of clutch (I don't know what it is it came with the recon) has stamp with f0803 (5?) That would stick out further and foul my 6speed box in this way.
I can't seem to figure out if it is dual mass or single flywheel? Are the clutch/flywheel assemblies different in depth.
Sadly my old clutch flywheel and engine have been dumped so I cannot measure it.
Many thanks to those on this forum.

Thank Lord Knobrot, yes the spline fits the shaft, i guess I have a clutch that is not meant for the gearbox then, I will see if the peeps who sold me the engine can supply a matching gearbox, I thought that it must be a different clutch and flywheel, are there identifying marks on these?
As for the injectors I don't have a clue, I was told there are 2 types for the 2.2 and the new engine set has different serials, I will look them up, pump came with new engine, but the ecu is my original, I understand some ecu re config is necessary sometimes using some software but not always. Either way it's good to know that there are clutch and flywheel combos that won't work with my gearbox so mystery solved. Really appreciate your help.

There are only two gearboxes for the Mk7 FWD's, either 5 or 6 speed...there are 2 different final drive ratios for each but each of the gearboxes themselves are identical.

https://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l ... NysxMzM%3D

You have a 6 speed so essentially you only have the one type, either 4.36:1 or 4.93:1 final drive ratio.

With the flywheels, there are two for the 6 speed, either single mass or dual mass.

https://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l ... OSsxMzM%3D

For the clutch itself, there are only two, one for the 5 speed and one for the 6 speed....they are different. There is also a different clutch for the Euro-5 but you have a Euro-4 so you need to make sure you have the correct one.

https://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l ... EzMw%3D%3D

With the fuel pumps, there is only one for the Euro-4...so basically no choice...how you have an "uprated pump" is a mystery.??

https://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l ... EzMw%3D%3D

With your injectors, the 85 & 110 have one part number, the 115, 130 & 140 use another. Simple as that....there are no "uprated" injectors, either they are the correct ones, or not.

https://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l ... g4NzkrMTMz

The learns need to be done when you finally get it running.... or it will never run correctly.

Lord Knobrot

The "higher spec injectors make no difference " your still only mapped at 110ps..... I've personally used 85ps and 100 ps , 130ps, and 140ps injectors in a 130 ps engine with no difference in performance whatsoever
And i changed from dual mass to single mass but i only had 5sp not the problem 6spd and gearbox lasted to over 700,000mls, definitely the wrong clutch parts you have

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