Engine rebuild 2.2 rwd

[silvercloud]

Well gentlemen I have managed to pull apart the engine … we found the problem -

220k on the clock - cracked / holed piston cylinder 3 can only assume it’s a leaky injector over time - so obviously we will need a new piston for no 3 and rings for all 4 - what else should I replace while I have the engine out ? Everything else seems ok I don’t want to spend silly money as it’s only a campervan so gets very little use , I have no idea of the history of the van and what it has or hasn’t been through- I bought it broken and took a gamble on it being salvageable!

Any and all input would be fantastic

[metalworker0]

only campervan! ..and only worth 3 or 4 times more than a regular van of that age === so worth the spend

you need everything at 220 miles
full set of pistons and rings ..at minimum a hone
new main bearings . new .big end bearings
oil pump
cam chain and tensioner and guides
new injectors
cylinder head skim
valve seals , rear oil seal , front oil seals

all the best.mark

[tranmx2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L767i0D7gD0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB6yMch23xM

Vv face too close to head face.JPG

Skim the head - vavle faces are very close to the head face.
DIY what tools facilities are required? Shall it need a new head?
Can you get out of dead ends you might get into?
I'd not recommend the place I got the recon' engine from.

[silvercloud]

Checked the head it’s fine won’t be getting it skimmed , will rebuild what I have as at least I know it’s down right !

Where’s best to buy parts from ?

[T350camper]

I'd definitely recommend having the head refaced, regardless of how straight it may seem. A good engineering shop can removed only a couple of thou if that's all that is required, but at least you'll know it perfectly flat. A lot of work to do all over again if there is the tiniest of flaws in the mating surface.

[silvercloud]

I’ve read in multiple places that skimming the head on a euro 5 2.2 engine is not recommended-

My reason for not wanting to skim the head is that I have checked and it is not warped , I have full access to engineering workshop and have no problem skimming the head if it’s needed ! Would be handier for me to mill the head that have to clean it

I know very little about this engine and only go by what I have read off here , do the 2.2 have different version head gaskets ? If so I believe what I have taken off is a two notch gasket ?! Would that be standard or would that mean the head has already been done ?

Can anyone who has skimmed the euro 5 head confirm that it is ok to do and doesn’t park pistons into valves

[metalworker0]

There are different gaskets for after a head skim .when i talked about skimming it was to clean it up ..as the MLS gaskets need perfect surface to seal.
if it was warped and you needed more off, you would have to re-cut the valve seats deeper and take some off the top of the valve stems.

all the best.mark

[knobby1]

I’ve read in multiple places that skimming the head on a euro 5 2.2 engine is not recommended-

My reason for not wanting to skim the head is that I have checked and it is not warped , I have full access to engineering workshop and have no problem skimming the head if it’s needed ! Would be handier for me to mill the head that have to clean it

I know very little about this engine and only go by what I have read off here , do the 2.2 have different version head gaskets ? If so I believe what I have taken off is a two notch gasket ?! Would that be standard or would that mean the head has already been done ?

Can anyone who has skimmed the euro 5 head confirm that it is ok to do and doesn’t park pistons into valves

You'll need to do a "piston protrusion" check to see what head gasket is required...as our metalworker0 says, taking material off the head will have the pistons closer to the valves and compression ratio will increase...not always a good thing.

Lord Knobrot

[silvercloud]

I’ve read in multiple places that skimming the head on a euro 5 2.2 engine is not recommended-

My reason for not wanting to skim the head is that I have checked and it is not warped , I have full access to engineering workshop and have no problem skimming the head if it’s needed ! Would be handier for me to mill the head that have to clean it

I know very little about this engine and only go by what I have read off here , do the 2.2 have different version head gaskets ? If so I believe what I have taken off is a two notch gasket ?! Would that be standard or would that mean the head has already been done ?

Can anyone who has skimmed the euro 5 head confirm that it is ok to do and doesn’t park pistons into valves

You'll need to do a "piston protrusion" check to see what head gasket is required...as our metalworker0 says, taking material off the head will have the pistons closer to the valves and compression ratio will increase...not always a good thing.

Lord Knobrot

Thank you for this - I did ask on the other thread I had regarding removing the engine - you can ignore that question !!!

[silvercloud]

There are different gaskets for after a head skim .when i talked about skimming it was to clean it up ..as the MLS gaskets need perfect surface to seal.
if it was warped and you needed more off, you would have to re-cut the valve seats deeper and take some off the top of the valve stems.

all the best.mark

Thanks mark i understand now , yes the head is straight as a die, there is marring on the head from the fire rings , would probably be removed with .03 skimmed off, would two notches on a gasket to be standard for a transit or would that indicate it’s been done before ?

[metalworker0]

its all about piston protrusion as knobby says
they are talking about 1.8 in a connect ..dont know if same rules apply to 2.2

but it says 7 head gaskets sizes ( bare in mind this was 14 years ago ..and the supply of these gaskets may not be 7 anymore

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=88733

on other threads for 2.2, says ford themselves used two notch sometimes ...so still could be standard.

i think anything but the lightest of skims is going to have the valves sticking above the head face ..if they are now ..then it's been done before.

all the best.mark

[silvercloud]

its all about piston protrusion as knobby says
they are talking about 1.8 in a connect ..dont know if same rules apply to 2.2

but it says 7 head gaskets sizes ( bare in mind this was 14 years ago ..and the supply of these gaskets may not be 7 anymore

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=88733

on other threads for 2.2, says ford themselves used two notch sometimes ...so still could be standard.

i think anything but the lightest of skims is going to have the valves sticking above the head face ..if they are now ..then it's been done before.

all the best.mark

Just had a Quick Look there-

Valves are .65 clearance from the face so would assume that it’s been unmolested ?!

So assuming the two notch gasket that’s on it , which from what I have gathered is 1.15mm would be safe to say a 3 notch gasket and .4 max skimmed from the head would bring it into nice tolerances without haven’t to trim valve stems ?!

Will have to dig further into it , don’t have much experience with transit engines!

Really appreciate all the help you guys have provided

[metalworker0]

You only have to trim the valve stems, if you re-cut the valve seats ... this would apply more to a cylinder head with Shim-over-bucket valve adjustment set-up like the 1.8 connects ..yours has hydraulic lifters so is more forgiving.

i went to the transit connect post ..as i could not get into the site we use , AS IT IS DOWN ..that being cat car info
http://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en

Here i think you'll find a list of the head gasket sizes available WHEN THE SITE IS WORKING

all the best.mark

[andz327]

Go for a VICTOR REINZ 3 notch head gadket

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[tranmx2]

2013 transit mk7 Euro 5(i think) RWD 2.2 LWB.

The 2012 engine does not have hydraulic lifters.
MLS gasket 3 hole is 1.2mm 47th. The 2 hole 1.15mm 45th thick.
Victor Reinz 61 43175 20 for the 3 hole. Autodoc have a selection of different makes at about £30.
Likely the gaskets are for the newly built engine and determined as Knobby has described.

Did you check the depth of all of the valve faces from the head face? On the 2012 the depth varied.

An amount of material is likely to be removed from the head and the block.

2012 there was a loss of material likely from not using antifreeze in the coolant.
Most of the none through flow passages in the gasket were blocked with rust like deposits.
The inlet side of the head and block cleaned up with abrasive whereas the exhaust side remained marked/stained.