hill start

[loot]

I never use the handbrake unless I'm on the steepest of hills, i drove up the hill stopped in gear, brake and clutch in out in out and moved off thinking ah f*ckit

[mjsroofing]

I never use the handbrake unless I'm on the steepest of hills, i drove up the hill stopped in gear, brake and clutch in out in out and moved off thinking ah f*ckit

No, I never use hand brake, don't think I've ever done a "hill start" in a van.
Saying that I don't think I do in a car either.

I think it's from driving so many bangers years ago before I could afford a car that worked.

[loot]

No dice
Installed software for a later van.
Tried calibrating logitudinal sensor-routine failed.
Tried calibrating abs or something-failed
Calibrated steering angle sensor-success.
Downloaded vin data thing- success.

When it fails it is checking abs, the abs pump makes a noise, identical to bleed master.
It has to be a different abs pump/module as there's nothing else i can think of Can the yaw sensor be different?
Might just smash the hsa led so it stops winking at me when i start the van don't think it's worth replacing the abs pump.
Only other thing is that the vcm clone isn't capable of doing the process?
Bummer

[paul2012]

No dice
Installed software for a later van.
Tried calibrating logitudinal sensor-routine failed.
Tried calibrating abs or something-failed
Calibrated steering angle sensor-success.
Downloaded vin data thing- success.

When it fails it is checking abs, the abs pump makes a noise, identical to bleed master.
It has to be a different abs pump/module as there's nothing else i can think of Can the yaw sensor be different?
Might just smash the hsa led so it stops winking at me when i start the van don't think it's worth replacing the abs pump.
Only other thing is that the vcm clone isn't capable of doing the process?
Bummer

I know ABS pump is different to ABS/ESP. I will check against one with HSA.

In the mean time I have full ASAP built data & .ab file for mk7 2.2 115ps if you require it

[loot]

Cheers Paul i got ab from a 140 exactly the same as mine but 08 with later clocks, only 1 byte different in the ab compared to mine which i wishfully thought was it lol.

Question, do all transits that come with abs/esp/later clocks 08 on have hsa? or the option to turn it on?
I also am wondering if i need to actually mod the abs data (install a calibration to it from a hsa pump?
If you could find out about the pumps tho Paul that would be great

[walt1984]

Ours is a 61 and has hill start. Can't be turned on/off like connect.
57 plate didn't have it. Thing I noticed between the 2 vans, there is something like a solenoid on a brake pipe running down bulkhead under the servo. I don't know if itss any use ill post u a pic.

[loot]

Yes please, anything that may help is good
Just thought of something, my diagrams go upto 052008, i don't suppose anybody knows when hsa First came out? If it's after this date then i probably don't have the correct diagram

[mjsroofing]

Didn't it come out in 2009, same time as 6 speed box and 115 on fwd.

My m8s got same van as me but 2008 and it doesn't have hsa ,

[loot]

A guy on here has said he has a 57 plate and hsa has stopped working so that takes it around 2008 i think.
I doubt it'll be fitted if the van doesn't have both abs and esp, don't ask me if they were both standard tho

[loot]

If i have a 2007 abs module then surely it'll be programmed without hsa? Can anyone say whether i can install abs data? And for a later calibration? Or will it have had the only available update for my van?
I wonder if it is just abs module data or is there extra components on the pump/system?
Walt mentioned an extra solenoid but it isn't listed in my diagram
Would be cool to get to the bottom of this but if Paul doesn't find anything then just short of me pinching a van and striping it then I'm not sure lol

[paul2012]

If i have a 2007 abs module then surely it'll be programmed without hsa? Can anyone say whether i can install abs data? And for a later calibration? Or will it have had the only available update for my van?
I wonder if it is just abs module data or is there extra components on the pump/system?
Walt mentioned an extra solenoid but it isn't listed in my diagram
Would be cool to get to the bottom of this but if Paul doesn't find anything then just short of me pinching a van and striping it then I'm not sure lol

After checking Ford Microcat....

If early 2007 mk7 don't HSA possibly reason why..

Lateral sensor was changed from 6C11-3C190 to 8C11-3C190 in 10/2007
Along with ABS/ESP pump from 6C11-2C405 to 8C11-2C405

NOTE - ABS/ESP pump is different between RWD & FWD

[loot]

OK thanks
Think I'm going to have to do some drastic modification if i want hsa then.
Not going to be cost affective i think.

[mjsroofing]

OK thanks
Think I'm going to have to do some drastic modification if i want hsa then.
Not going to be cost affective i think.

Cost effective doesn't come in to it, it's a mod.

[walt1984]

Ours is a 61 and has hill start. Can't be turned on/off like connect.
57 plate didn't have it. Thing I noticed between the 2 vans, there is something like a solenoid on a brake pipe running down bulkhead under the servo. I don't know if itss any use ill post u a pic.

Don't think its brake related. I unplugged it and hsa still works. What ever it is it knew I'd unplugged it.

[loot]

Aw guys i was getting used to the idea of letting it be and yous come and egg me on!
Abs pump on eBay 45 quid, lat sensor silly money.

Not sure what that sensor is Walt yours fwd Is the sensor connected to the brakes? Or just located thereabouts.?