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Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby dieselhead123 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:46 pm

Here you are chaps, this is the one you have all been waiting for :shock:

A local Transit repair specialist, also a forum member, has a Mk7 in for repair. The van is a FWD 2.2 and has a seized engine, the owner of the vehicle is keen to have the Mtdi conversion fitted and given that the engine needs replacement this is the ideal opportunity.

The repairer responsible for carrying out the engine installation has provided us with parts from the removed 2.2 engine together with a 2.0 Tddi replacement, he is also assisting with development of this conversion.

The idea is to re-use as many of the external components from the 2.2 as possible, simply replacing the block/head assembly with that of a 2.0. A number of 'adapter parts' will be required, once development is complete then these parts will be made available in 'kit' form to compliment the Mtdi pump conversion. The Mtdi pump conversion thread can be seen here;
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A number of the 2.2 parts we need to swap to the 2.0 are a simple bolt on replacement, the exhaust manifold and turbo fit directly to the 2.0 cylinder head;
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Some slight modification had to be carried out to the oil feed/return pipes.

The 2.2 crankshaft pulley fits to the 2.0 engine;
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The pulley from the rear of the camshaft has been removed;
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The 2.2 Vac pump and water outlet fits directly to the 2.0 head;
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More later :D

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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby Mr RVM » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:54 pm

At last :!: :!: :!: ...A reliable "bomb proof" Mk7 is to become a reality 8)
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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby andypdq » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:11 pm

Mr RVM wrote:At last :!: :!: :!: ...A reliable "bomb proof" Mk7 is to become a reality 8)


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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby Punto443 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:17 pm

Looks interesting this one :D
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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby transitandy » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:43 pm

Knew it had to happen :)
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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby Mr RVM » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:49 pm

transitandy wrote:Knew it had to happen :)


Karl will have get a paper round if you cause too many Mk7's to stop breaking down and blowing their engines up :lol:
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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby Mr RVM » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:52 pm

"Backwards" is the new "Way forward" (and I believe it in this case) :)
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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby andypdq » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:57 pm

Mr RVM wrote:"Backwards" is the new "Way forward" (and I believe it in this case) :)


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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby bigjohnthomas » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:19 pm

you crazy fellows :lol:
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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby ake » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:18 am

:D :D
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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby karl » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:50 pm

Mr RVM wrote:
transitandy wrote:Knew it had to happen :)


Karl will have get a paper round if you cause too many Mk7's to stop breaking down and blowing their engines up :lol:


cheers for that but a don't think it would happen me having a paper round :D

anyway watching with interest :D
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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby dieselhead123 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:45 pm

A bit more on this chaps.

The 2.2 flywheel and clutch fit directly to the 2.0 crankshaft, we have fitted the 2.2 crank position sensor!

You can see here that the 2.2 rocker cover is different, the oil filler hole is at the front of the engine;
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On the 2.0 the oil filler hole is nearer the middle;
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Ideally we would like to re-fit the 2.2 rocker cover as it would enable access to the oil filler hole without the need to remove the Mk7 air box!
The 2.2 rocker cover does fit the 2.0 head but the area around the injectors is slightly lower on the 2.2 rocker cover so it fouls the 2.0 rockers :(
We do have an 'engineering solution' to this that will enable the 2.2 rocker cover to be fitted, this will be dealt with at a later stage.

The 2.2 oil filter/cooler housing fits directly to the 2.0 block;
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Some parts arrived today, locating dowels for the 2.2 PAS/Water Pump assembly and the correct fixing bolts;
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Also had an email from our profile cutter, the exhaust manifold EGR blanking plates are ready :D

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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby dieselhead123 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:04 pm

Collected the EGR blanking plates today;
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Also collected the first CAD profiles for the PAS/Water Pump adapter bracket;
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The plate thickness has been reduced to provide the same center to center dimension between the pulleys as when using the 2.2 block, this was important to achieve as we are re-using the Mk7 'stretchy' PAS belt.
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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby bambi mk 1 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:57 pm

Ah 2lt mk 6 engines have suddenly gone from worthless to £££££s :D .Tim will a mk 6 rwd rocker cover not do the trick.I never tried one to fit :?:
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Re: Retrofitting a 2.0 Mtdi engine in a 2.2 Mk7 FWD

Postby dieselhead123 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:22 am

bambi mk 1 wrote:Ah 2lt mk 6 engines have suddenly gone from worthless to £££££s :D .Tim will a mk 6 rwd rocker cover not do the trick.I never tried one to fit :?:


Bambi mate, you could be onto something there :D
The 2.4 Mk6 cover does have the oil filler hole in the correct position and is likely to 'clear' the rockers as the rocker assembly is the same.
Just tried the 2.2 oil filler neck and it does fit into the 2.4 cover :D

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