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Stuck in 2nd

Postby ICY75 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:02 pm

I have a 06plate mk6 fwd

Driving home today I went to change from 2nd to 3rd but gearstick doesn't seem to be connected to the box, van is now stuck in 2nd, the gearstick moves with no resistance, the clutch is working as normal albeit with a high bite point which has been since got it

A few times when setting off it jumps out of first and Can be hard to get into first unless double clutch

My thoughts are linkage ??? Is this a major job, if it is linkage anyone any idea rough guide price on repair

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Re: Stuck in 2nd

Postby Punto443 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:21 pm

It's the gear selector bearing that has seized.

Fairly simple fix if you can wield a spanner :D
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Re: Stuck in 2nd

Postby Punto443 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:22 pm

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Re: Stuck in 2nd

Postby ICY75 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:01 pm

Thanks :)

Me and spanners don't really get on well :lol:

Whenever I go near tools it usually costs me more money than would if got it done lol
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Re: Stuck in 2nd

Postby knobby1 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:15 am

ICY75 wrote:Thanks :)

Me and spanners don't really get on well :lol:

Whenever I go near tools it usually costs me more money than would if got it done lol


Where are you?? Maybe there's a member close-by who may be able to help you out....If there's someone who can help....all you do is buy the required parts, have a plentiful supply of biccies and tea on hand...job done..!

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Re: Stuck in 2nd

Postby squirrel93 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:50 am

I done one a few months back changed the top bearing and couldn't understand why it was still siezed didn't relise it had one at the bottom aswell, was pritty simple just cover it with grease
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Re: Stuck in 2nd

Postby ICY75 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:05 am

knobby1 wrote:
ICY75 wrote:Thanks :)

Me and spanners don't really get on well :lol:

Whenever I go near tools it usually costs me more money than would if got it done lol


Where are you?? Maybe there's a member close-by who may be able to help you out....If there's someone who can help....all you do is buy the required parts, have a plentiful supply of biccies and tea on hand...job done..!

Lord Knobrot


I am in Rochdale be Manchester, if there was someone local who has done it before I would be delighted to supply constant stream of brews and biccies along with some paper for the back pocket.

I don't trust garages not to rip me off and insist on new gearbox or something daft like that

Looking at the link you posted it says to make sure it's in neutral before removing that's the problem it is jammed in gear, it isn't stuck with only 2 gears with no sideways movement like a lot of posts mention
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Re: Stuck in 2nd

Postby ICY75 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:20 am

Have also seen this on a google search, bit concerned now that I drove it home

if the gear stick is floppy then more than likely its the bolt holding the selector to the shaft this is a easy 50p job the bolt drops into the gear box you can get the bolt out by removing the selector housing and putting long magnet stick down their and if you are towing the van do it very slowly ( trust me dont tow it get it recovered by a recovery service ) or the bolt might get caught up in the gears and put hole through gearbox into bell housing and out the other side of housing you will lose oil you may be able to repair box by patch weald if it is a small hole otherwise the other option is to speak to your bank manager and he might be able to bend you over.............


And this

TRANSIT FWD GEARBOXES



One of the most common failures with this type transmission is a “Selector Head” failure. This manifests itself in a couple of ways either by restricting access to gears (difficult to engage/not moving across the neutral gate) or not selecting any gears and feeling really loose like stirring a bowl of soup.

The first of these two faults is the easier to fix and involves removing the selector head in-situ in order to replace the bearings and selector shaft. This repair can be completed in approximately two hours at a cost of £165.00 plus vat.

The second fault can be more of a problem, and it is a problem that can be compounded by a lack of understanding. In order to minimise the expense related to this fault it is important to understand what has gone wrong and the implications for moving the vehicle.

Half way along the selector shaft is a 10mm bolt; this bolt has a tendency to either work itself loose or to snap off at the head. Either way the symptoms are the same; a floppy gear lever that either won’t select anything or is stuck in one gear. The most important thing to do if this happens on your vehicle is to STOP DRIVING IMMEDIATELY!

What happens is either the head of the bolt or the complete bolt will fall into the gearbox, it will lodge itself under the differential. Unfortunately the bolt cannot be retrieved from the top of the gearbox once the selector head is removed and is also too large to fit through the drain plug. The only way to remove the bolt is to first remove the gearbox from the vehicle and then split the gearbox open. Obviously this greatly adds to the labour on the repair, costing £365.00 plus vat including the reconditioned selector head.

If the vehicle is driven (if you have one gear selected) or towed, then the bolt can be caught up by the differential and punched through the gearbox casing, causing the gearbox to lose all its oil and this brings the possibility of the gearbox overheating and the gear train “burning out”. In the worst instances this would require a reconditioned gearbox to be fitted at cost of £925.00 plus vat.

So as you can see what is on the face of it a small fault with the selector head can become a major failure of the transmission.

We are in the process of replacing a transit gearbox in our workshops with exactly this fault, but what makes this one worse is that it has recently had the selector head replaced by another garage, who on seeing that the bolt had snapped and therefore must still be in the gearbox, neglected to advise the customer to have it removed. The customer not being aware of the debris still in his gearbox went about his business. Several miles later and now with a hole in the gearbox, no oil and a lot of noise, the customer rings us. The customer is obviously angry with the garage that undertook the repair, but decided against allowing them to do any further work on his vehicle.

The annoying thing here is that the major failure was avoidable, whether the repairing garage new of the potential damage or not I couldn’t say, but it seems unlikely that they didn’t know that the bolt was still in the gearbox. Once again we see an example of poor practice or a lack of knowledge or understanding that has cost a customer much more than it should have, not to mention the lost time and expense to his business with his van off the road.

Hoping none of you reading this will be caught out in the future.

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Re: Stuck in 2nd

Postby ICY75 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:14 pm

Well it looks like that me now left without a van

Had to take it to a garage and basically looks like it's not worth repairing

Apparently needs gearbox strip and rebuild, clutch, rear brakes and will need a load of welding and couple of tyres for mot

Total cost likely to be about £950 only paid £1k for the van. so I now have a van that's worth no more than scrap value and somehow find money to get a replacement, that isnt going to be fun :(

Oh and just to give the final kick in the nuts, there's £70 of diesel in it too
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