What lets you run to lowest fuel level: up or down hill

[WarthogARJ]

Sender and fuel pickup are generally in the centre of the tank. So it won’t make any difference whether it is facing up hill or downhill, it will start drawing air all the same. The top of the sender is nearer the front but the float itself is nearer the centre

Given the difficulty in bleeding the fuel system on the old MK6, this situation should be avoided. Common sense would dictate this.

I can’t help but think that this is a troll post, designed purely to generate negative responses, so that the poster can then complain about the responses. This is clearly demonstrated by your accusing a moderator of using bad language when we all can see that he clearly did not, and your general inference that we are all stupid and just following what we are told, unlike you, the supremely intelligent being who knows that it’s all a conspiracy, and that the earth is flat.

Now this was indeed a useful comment, although, and not as a windup, in a long narrow tank, with the fuel pickup in the centre, there is indeed a lot of difference in fuel level as you tilt the tank up and down.

In my case i deliberately pumped the tank down to ¼ tank so when i added additives to help clear the exhaust and cylinders, the concenteation of additives would be higher. And since there is a lot of crap in the tank, would be easier to flush/clean the tank/fuel. And then due to where i have available to work on it, it is either uphill a bit or downhill. Then add on ramps at back or front, and it slopes more. I did in effect run low on fuel then (in terms of starting to test etc) even though there was ¼ tank. Maybe due to fuel gauge error it is nearer to ⅛: i am going to check that. But should still not run out.

But i knew there was going to be air in system after renewing some hoses and cleaning injectors. And was very hard to bleed. Then i saw that at times i was sucking air from the tank. Which seemed strange if it did in fact have ¼, or even ⅛, and was parked sloped up.

Sure was easy to solve then: add more fuel and re-bleed. But i really didn’t think that would have happened.

And yes, i am not impressed at a lot of the design on these things. In 2004, this was a new van, and Ford has been making vehicles for close to 100 years: no excuse for some of the bad design done on it.

[WarthogARJ]

As far as abusive language, in fact it was Mike who said:

we’re not going to stop it you fvcking tool! Now fvck off!

That was on another thread.
But he’s following the same detogatory and unhelpful trend on this thread.

I’m not a prude, but i think that’s not suitable language to use on a technical forum.
So the guy posting that, and who has made posts like that quite a bit, should be sorted out by the moderators.

Yes you can report a post, but the moderators can also control (moderate) the general tone.
Either of a thread, a section or by a specific user.

[Mike]

As far as abusive language, in fact it was Mike who said:

we’re not going to stop it you fvcking tool! Now fvck off!

That was on another thread.
But he’s following the same detogatory and unhelpful trend on this thread.

I’m not a prude, but i think that’s not suitable language to use on a technical forum.
So the guy posting that, and who has made posts like that quite a bit, should be sorted out by the moderators.

Yes you can report a post, but the moderators can also control (moderate) the general tone.
Either of a thread, a section or by a specific user.

I didn't want to use words that might confuse you, you don't seem to understand most things that have been posted. You're either incredibly dim or way too educated for this forum, I know which one is most likely. Got the message? If not I can throw a few fvcks in to help you.

As for criticising the mods.......you dumbass.

[bigjohnthomas]

interesting use of a modified version of f***
possibility to escape the forum naughty word filters ?
whoever wrote that must have a real bad ass
thats for sure

[richgold]

Sure was easy to solve then: add more fuel.

Thank god the penny has dropped, although I did suggest that some time ago.

Its beyond my comprehension that someone would realise there wasnt much fuel in the tank, see it as a problem and then post on the internet asking for a solution.

Can someone please lock this thread, because against my better judgement im strangely compelled to keep reading it to see what new deranged lunacy it contains, and I'll never get that time back.

[Mike]

Can someone please lock this thread.

Or just lump all his shite in one thread in a whitemice/timid stylee?

[Altransit]

Can someone please lock this thread.

Or just lump all his shite in one thread in a whitemice/timid stylee?

C'mon, admit that locking the thread will ruin your fun

[wojciech]

Problem will be discussed in United Europe framework in next years.
Are you very lucky guys - because of Brexit?..

[Punto443]

I still don’t see how it’s a bad design?

There’s a light! Even if you can’t read a gauge? There’s a light comes on and tell you to refill!!



How is this a design fault?


But then? I’m no engineer,

although I’d imagine from my limited practical experience that the ridges etc on the base of the tank act as sump type arrangement to keep debris at the bottom and that’s why the tank does not drain completely to the bottom. To stop the “sludge” being dragged up into the fuel system.

But sh*t! I just cut wood for a living

[dumper]

I can’t understand why your blaming ford engineers for the position of the fuel pickup on the tank ever tank that takes its fuel surply from the top of the tank is usually from the center of the tank and that’s from most manufacturers some have a dimple in the centre of the tank to pickup fuel tanks that have a bottom feed on trucks and buses can be ether end or bottom of the tank or the centre at the end of the day you don’t want to run the tank that low that you may run out if there’s sh*t in the tank you have more chance of picking it up and that’s why you’re haveing to drop the tank to clean it out and ever time I have dropped a tank to clean it out I have allways had at least 5 gallons of clean fuel to put back in so I can’t really understand your problem

[bigjohnthomas]

Can't believe this has made 2 pages

Same thing with the engine oil pick up
A team of Ford's top designers must of had to calculate
Is it best for the engine to seize up going up a hill
Or down a hill when deciding the best place to put the
Oil pick up pipe as there's always one fookin idiot that won't top that up either then blame the manufacturer for poor design

Luckily for me i live i eternia Lincolnshire
And hills are illegal here
Outlawed

But some of you may not be so lucky
It's in the deeper part of the sump init ?
So if your in a fwd it would seize traversing n/s facing down
And a rwd would be going down a hill
What's all that about
I don't know and I'm a scientist

Nice chat
Bye
X

[bigjohnthomas]

But more importantly
What about the windscreen washer bottle
Now then that hasn't even got a alarm to tell you it's running low
So is it going up tiddly up up
Or down dodfly down down?

Well i don't know what Ford's team of crack designers did with that one
I'm off to watch some lezbo stuff on the television set
Ttfn

[loot]

The custom has a windscreen washer alarm

[richgold]

I had a Transit for 4 years and in 120,000 miles I never ran out of fuel once.

If this guy didn't think to fill the tank with diesel maybe we should post step by step instructions for going to the toilet in case he has trouble wiping his arse.

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[bigjohnthomas]

The custom has a windscreen washer alarm

is it a system message?
Don't think I'll ever see that
Any finding of this thread will be useful to tramps , vagabonds and mk6 owners
Attempting to get the last dregs out their gutrot cider bottle
When they have had a skinfull and are non vertical
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