Possible sticking clutch pedal

[Stumble]

Ok, Ive not had my van long or driven it much, so I'll try and explain the problem
Sometimes after starting it up, on pull away in first there's a delay in throttle response, usually fine after that (btw i have already replaced the clutch switch)
Yesterday, it did it again twice, only notice it in first, not in reverse - so far
Also can be a little difficult to engage first smoothly, feels like its not fully disengaging sometimes, also had the feeling the clutch pedal is possibly sticking slightly and not springing back up as good or as quick as it should
From what I found on searching it may be the slave cylinder going, I hope not, as that sounds like gearbox out, new clutch kit etc
Its a 2008 2.2 fwd swb 85
So your thoughts please

[knobby1]

How many miles on the beast..?? Has the system been bled properly..?? M'cyl not happy maybe..??

It's possible the clutch is on it's way out. I don't think the 85 has a DMF.

Lord Knobrot

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Thanks
Its near on 200000 but drives ok otherwise
No idea about bleeding not tried that yet
But would that affect throttle response ?

[knobby1]

Thanks
Its near on 200000 but drives ok otherwise
No idea about bleeding not tried that yet
But would that affect throttle response ?

Clutch shouldn't affect throttle response......a poorly accelerator pedal, (among other things), can give similar symptoms though...they're "fly by wire".

Lord Knobrot

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Ok, can you explain the best way to bleed the clutch ?

[andz327]

Good news is lord knobby is getting bit auld nowadays and your van doesn't have dual mass flywheel so clutch kit isnt to bad price wise bad news is the gearbox needs to come out, they can be bit temperamental to bleed and you could make it worse
Do the engine revs go up but you don't start moving when letting clutch up?
Or doesn't the revs go up when throttle is pressed ....nothing happens ??
Any free play in clutch pedal??
ANDZ

[knobby1]

Good news is lord knobby is getting bit auld nowadays and your van doesn't have dual mass flywheel ANDZ

I did say l didn't think it had one..! And yes, I'm gettin' auld.

Lord Knobrot

[andz327]

Good news is lord knobby is getting bit auld nowadays and your van doesn't have dual mass flywheel ANDZ

I did say l didn't think it had one..! And yes, I'm gettin' auld.

Lord Knobrot

Me getting aulder by the day tae mate it's fookin rubbish

ANDZ

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Good news is lord knobby is getting bit auld nowadays and your van doesn't have dual mass flywheel so clutch kit isnt to bad price wise bad news is the gearbox needs to come out, they can be bit temperamental to bleed and you could make it worse
Do the engine revs go up but you don't start moving when letting clutch up?

no - its not slipping atm

Or doesn't the revs go up when throttle is pressed ....nothing happens ??

correct, as if the pedal isn't right up on the clutch switch - so far only breifly

Any free play in clutch pedal??

yes, some there, thinking of trying to put a return spring on, if I can find one

So, is pressure bleeding effective ? like a using Gunstone kit

Thanks

[knobby1]

So, is pressure bleeding effective ? like a using Gunstone kit Thanks

Easiest way to bleed the clutch is to connect the left front brake caliper bleed nipple to the slave cyl bleed nipple using a suitable tube, open both nipples and slowly pump the brake, this will back flush the clutch system.

LordKnobrot

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So, is pressure bleeding effective ? like a using Gunstone kit Thanks

Easiest way to bleed the clutch is to connect the left front brake caliper bleed nipple to the slave cyl bleed nipple using a suitable tube, open both nipples and slowly pump the brake, this will back flush the clutch system.

LordKnobrot

Wow, easiest ? lol sounds awkward, but, I guess you mean most effective
OK thanks I will look at mine again and see if I can do it that way
Thanks

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Well its a bit of a PITA job, but, after several attempts I have done it, but, no test drive yet,
Will test drive v soon with findings

[Frag]

If you have Free play in the Clutch pedal,at top of its stroke,
It’s usually wear due to the hole in end of pushrod being elongated,
Stick your head in footwell,see if you can work the free play in pedal without the plastic pushrod moving..,
If so,you can ‘temporarily’ bodge it by sliding something in to make up the gap,
I used the tapered end,cut off a ty-wrap,and pushed it into the front most edge of the hole.
Got rid of the play till I swapped master cylinder (it was weeping also)

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Fair enough Frag, thats a job for another day
Already found another job when underneath - i could see a dirty great crack in the thermostat housing mount -anyone know the part number ? 2008 2.2 fwd, couldn't find one on ebay, all seemed to be later ones

So, now it does seem better, but, still some play in the pedal - maybe its what Frag said now
Biggest improvement I think was made due to I accidentally drained most of the fluid out and so had replace with new =- it was yucky black looking
So far so good, less play, no delay apparent so far

[andz327]

That black sh!t can cause problems if you back bleed it into the reservoir, clear tube on slave nipple other end into a container with brake fluid in, open nipple and use your hand to pump pedal but dont go to the floor 1/2 to 3/4 of way and either get someone to watch bleed pipe or get them to pump , keep reservoir topped up and watch until no air bubbles or blck guff coming oot, close nip and see if its good to go, i purchased a Borg and Beck clutch master cylinder not that long ago (ended up the 2 month old LUK clutch kit was faulty) and was fairly cheap if you need to replace (black guff could be seals starting to go)

ANDZ