Finally, It Happened To Me - Won't start/ non-starter

[Altransit]

I want a dirty new turbo @

I've split the thread as it kinda went off topic

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[ned]

I want a dirty new turbo @

I've split the thread as it kinda went off topic

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=209909

Like most threads then, I do apologise my good man

[DG-Unit]

Well so it’s not starting again. Stuck on the same road as before so thinking it’s cursed. And I’ve just booked a non-refundable ferry trip Feels different but some of the codes are familiar:

Pulled out and was in a rush so pushed the accelerator half way up the street and immediately after it cut out. Wouldn’t start again but was (and still is) cranking. Thought it might be fuel starvation as the tank is low and on a hill. Put 5L in and it started first time but cut out straight after. It’s been doing the same thing today so I don’t think low fuel tank was the issue just that I’d left it to go get the fuel. I’ve read the error codes and slightly different each time (seems normal):
P1664 FIP malfunction. This DTC may be caused by: FIP timing chain tension, PCM, FIP, Carry out the CAN Test.
P1564 FIP requesting reduced fuelling mode
P1631 PCM main relay, Open Circuit, short to ground or battery. May be caused by: Loose/poor battery connections at the battery and engine block, power relay (checked the battery connections seem good and earth and reading 12.8v in the engine bay)
P1664 (this one gives me nightmares) FIP Malfunction. May be caused be: FIP timing chain tension (hope not it’s less than a year old), PCM, FIP, Carry out the CAN Test.
P1564 FIP requesting reduced fuelling mode
P1631 PCM main relay. Open circuit, short circuit to ground or battery. may be cause by loose/poor battery connections, power relay

When i reset the DTC codes P1664 and P1564 come back straight away. The battery ones might have been caused by me cycling the battery isolator switch to see if that does anything. Ugh. This van doesn’t give a sh*t how much I look after and fix it, seems to just want to die.

[knobby1]

Well so it’s not starting again. Stuck on the same road as before so thinking it’s cursed. And I’ve just booked a non-refundable ferry trip Feels different but some of the codes are familiar:

Pulled out and was in a rush so pushed the accelerator half way up the street and immediately after it cut out. Wouldn’t start again but was (and still is) cranking. Thought it might be fuel starvation as the tank is low and on a hill. Put 5L in and it started first time but cut out straight after. It’s been doing the same thing today so I don’t think low fuel tank was the issue just that I’d left it to go get the fuel. I’ve read the error codes and slightly different each time (seems normal):
P1664 FIP malfunction. This DTC may be caused by: FIP timing chain tension, PCM, FIP, Carry out the CAN Test.
P1564 FIP requesting reduced fuelling mode
P1631 PCM main relay, Open Circuit, short to ground or battery. May be caused by: Loose/poor battery connections at the battery and engine block, power relay (checked the battery connections seem good and earth and reading 12.8v in the engine bay)
P1664 (this one gives me nightmares) FIP Malfunction. May be caused be: FIP timing chain tension (hope not it’s less than a year old), PCM, FIP, Carry out the CAN Test.
P1564 FIP requesting reduced fuelling mode
P1631 PCM main relay. Open circuit, short circuit to ground or battery. may be cause by loose/poor battery connections, power relay

When i reset the DTC codes P1664 and P1564 come back straight away. The battery ones might have been caused by me cycling the battery isolator switch to see if that does anything. Ugh. This van doesn’t give a sh*t how much I look after and fix it, seems to just want to die.

P1564 and P1664 are usually the pump EDC not well.

Lord Knobrot

[DG-Unit]

I’m wondering if i should chance pulling off the EDC and sending for repairs, hoping the garage didn’t fit a cheap timing chain kit last year that’s skipped a tooth. Do the symptoms match the EDC going? I’ve been very light on the throttle for a while so seemed significant the first time i boot it, this happens.

[DG-Unit]

Process of elimination makes me think it’s the EDC so I’m not messing about wasting time. Whipped it off and sent it to Diesel Pump Repairs in Rugeley. Will report back.

[knobby1]

Process of elimination makes me think it’s the EDC so I’m not messing about wasting time. Whipped it off and sent it to Diesel Pump Repairs in Rugeley. Will report back.

I don't think it's "process of elimination"...the fault codes point to it.

Lord Knobrot

[DG-Unit]

Process of elimination makes me think it’s the EDC so I’m not messing about wasting time. Whipped it off and sent it to Diesel Pump Repairs in Rugeley. Will report back.

I don't think it's "process of elimination"...the fault codes point to it.

Lord Knobrot

Well. Eliminating my paranoia the timing chain has gone again.

[knobby1]

Process of elimination makes me think it’s the EDC so I’m not messing about wasting time. Whipped it off and sent it to Diesel Pump Repairs in Rugeley. Will report back.

I don't think it's "process of elimination"...the fault codes point to it.

Lord Knobrot

Well. Eliminating my paranoia the timing chain has gone again.

Fair enough..

Lord Knobrot

[DG-Unit]

Repaired EDC came back quicker than expected. Fiddly to fit and worried about the crimped connections (apparently voids warranty if you solder). Was tricky doing the crimps with no space. Anyway, back on and started straight away. Error codes gone. Just got a bit of a flat battery to charge up. Here’s the link to the people I sent it to:https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284076862880 ... media=COPY. They received it Wednesday 11am and it was back to me before 11am Saturday.

[1888]

Here’s the link to the people I sent it to:https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284076862880 ... media=COPY. They received it Wednesday 11am and it was back to me before 11am Saturday.

Last time i looked at that ebay advert what was only a couple of month ago that was closer to the £20 mark

[1888]

Here’s the link to the people I sent it to:https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284076862880 ... media=COPY. They received it Wednesday 11am and it was back to me before 11am Saturday.

Last time i looked at that ebay advert what was only a couple of month ago that was closer to the £20 mark

No ill take that back it was just to take the code out.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LDV-CONVOY-V ... SwCGVX-otI

[DG-Unit]

So new EDC went in, didn’t throw any codes, started straight away. I turned the engine off to finish putting the air box and ducting on. Went to start and it goes to crank but doesn’t fire. So I do bled the furthest to passenger side injector in case air got in when I had the EDC off the pump but still not joy. Although reading 11.9v, my jump pack indicates the battery is toast which feels about right the number of times I’ve run it flat. So off to Halfords on the bus, new Yuasa battery reading 12.5v fitted and still will crank but not start… Have I missed something? It did start once and started strong but nothing since and all I did between the start and not starting was fit the air box and put my tools away

[1888]

Ask your man who did the EDC if it comes back to you in a so called virgin state. Reason i ask i just not long changed my pump for a recon what came in the virgin state and there is a sequence in turning it on for the first time. I think its to do with the EDC reading the ECU immobiliser code or other way about.

[DG-Unit]

Ask your man who did the EDC if it comes back to you in a so called virgin state. Reason i ask i just not long changed my pump for a recon what came in the virgin state and there is a sequence in turning it on for the first time. I think its to do with the EDC reading the ECU immobiliser code or other way about.

Thanks for the suggestion. I’ve asked and I’ll see what comes back but as it started the first time and there’s no PATS light/coil symbol/DTC codes I’m pretty sure they just kept it coded to the van as it was sent to them.