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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby knobby1 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:39 pm

loot wrote:I will confirm about the cams but when manually rotating engine it is fine, I don't think they are 2 piece.

My only main thought is maybe it is 1 tooth or on the crank sprocket but again I don't think it would run as well.


Hey Loot...If the cam timing is out on a Mk7 the engine simply won't start as the cam/crank sync with be out and the PCM won't allow fuel flow or injector pulse....however, the cam sensor is on the inlet cam...so if the exhaust cam is out a tooth or so it may still start or try to start.

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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby loot » Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:41 pm

They're not lifters as such on this just knuckles with restriction and is central on the rocker so the roller follows the cam and the other end pushes the valve and the middle just gets a lube of oil and dampens any slack.

I think I've sorted it now, I'm partly embarrassed but will take it as it is. I spent 40 mins lying on the ground locating the slot for the crank, and having done that it also corresponds with the 2.5 teeth anticlockwise from 12 o clock. But it means that the crank was 1 tooth out.

So, as much as I checked it before and it running perfectly I guess when oil pressure and engine temperature was achieved then going up the hill and loading the engine, that then gave enough fouling on the valves to damage a rocker. I don't know if 1 snapped and the bit bounced about and damaged the others or they all went.

I've done a few of these and not really had a problem with the crank slot, so I must have just got sloppy and assumed that I had the right slot and that only the inlet cam was out originally.

Which won't happen again.

Fortunately I have only wasted some time and some sealant on the timing cover. That's assuming there's no damage to the case or anything but I'll find out when I run it up. Might still get paid.

Cheers for the help guys it's always good to get ideas and tips no matter how much we think we know, standing back from it and having a think usually helps loads. 8)
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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby loot » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:02 pm

All fixed and returned to sender, loot got paid. Albeit I paid more in f***ups and stress than happy jobs.

Combo to has died too so that's next :?
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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby andz327 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:49 pm

loot wrote:All fixed and returned to sender, loot got paid. Albeit I paid more in f***ups and stress than happy jobs.

Combo to has died too so that's next :?
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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby loot » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:55 pm

andz327 wrote:
loot wrote:All fixed and returned to sender, loot got paid. Albeit I paid more in f***ups and stress than happy jobs.

Combo to has died too so that's next :?
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Things come to me dead :lol:

I think I will consider not concentrating on building engines because it ties me up and these days there's too much to go wrong plus I'll be forever expected to warranty it.

The guy bought my van in 2015 he's a builder type and drives it like he stole it, the service items on it are what I fitted :roll:

He didn't blame me or anything but did say can I service it every year. Think he realised having the same bits on it 6 years may have caused it to fail. :lol:

I'm a bit trapped on the combo because to replace the engine is over a grand, or do I build it. I've ordered a new core and had gasket. The annoying thing is on first warm up I saw the fan wasn't working, I do think the head gasket is falling because of this but it could still be the oil cooler which I checked, do I do the gasket? But I'm unable to test the head or skim it. I should get the right gear if I do plan on messing round with engineering type stuff.

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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby Altransit » Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:42 pm

loot wrote: I'm unable to test the head or skim it. I should get the right gear if I do plan on messing round with engineering type stuff.

I flat filed the head on my old A series 1300GT because I was fed up with spending money on it :P I can truthfully report that it never blew a head gasket again :shock: :lol:
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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby loot » Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:13 pm

:lol:

Unfortunately I'm naturally wonky so wouldn't trust myself
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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby Altransit » Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:13 am

loot wrote::lol:

Unfortunately I'm naturally wonky so wouldn't trust myself

I'll bet that Andz has done it, at the side of a remote road in the highlands, in the snow, in the dark, using only a nail file, a hammer, and a pair of mole grips, so you would have no problem in your fully equipped workshop 8) :P :lol:
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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby loot » Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:38 am

Altransit wrote:
loot wrote::lol:

Unfortunately I'm naturally wonky so wouldn't trust myself

I'll bet that Andz has done it, at the side of a remote road in the highlands, in the snow, in the dark, using only a nail file, a hammer, and a pair of mole grips, so you would have no problem in your fully equipped workshop 8) :P :lol:

A strategically place karate chop in the centre of the head whilst resting on 2 bricks apart should do the trick :P 8) :lol:
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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby andz327 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:11 am

Altransit wrote:
loot wrote:

Unfortunately I'm naturally wonky so wouldn't trust myself

I'll bet that Andz has done it, at the side of a remote road in the highlands, in the snow, in the dark, using only a nail file, a hammer, and a pair of mole grips, so you would have no problem in your fully equipped workshop 8)
Aye but the mole grips were Milwaukee
Loot was yer flywheel pin an auld mk6 instead of the mk7 with 10mm head so it's not "in any port in a storm" and just fits timing slot.... anyhow glad it's done
What's the latest on the combo ?
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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby loot » Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:26 pm

Hi Andz, the combo is in the lair, second hand turbo for 100 quid arrived today so I'll fit that over the weekend. I did send the old cow back to London turbos that said there was oil starvation and contaminants in it that damaged the bearing and the shaft. The oil is clean black and no sign of bits, there's a slight chance that it may lose a little pressure when hot on tickover, the turnip lasted a year too.

Vehicle prices at the moment are mad, anything cheap is in worse condition than the combo.

2.0 insignia engines are reasonable money, I was looking at 1 and apart from a few bits it looked neat as Damn it to my 1.3 engine. Not brave enough to start playing about as I'm not learned enough on vauxhall /fiat engines.

It's a good little van other than the engine problem.

Dpm might be clogged but no eml.
Injectors leaked back 90ml at tickover for 2 minutes so at 4 minutes it could be upto 200ml which is 5x the transit maximum allowable amount.

But I don't know what it should be.

If a corsa D top turbo engine would fit then I'd get onto that as they can be had complete for reasonable money. The combo stop start variant is over 1000 and bare. :(

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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby ned » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:28 am

You could have bought my bmw then burnt the crapbo :lol: :lol: I had a 52 plate combo and hated everything about it, funny as that constantly had problems as well.

Mr Andz sir asbo is the naughty child in the corner facing the wall :lol: :lol: unloved and lacking attention, that might be true, might not, it could just be being kept on the down low ready for the next pay roll heist :? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby loot » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:12 am

I'm driving asbo daily as the combo is dead, asbo starts on the button and drives ok, the tickovers good etc. No power and smokes heavily under load and mil on with code for no boost.

Also smells like burning when I park and the engine area. Also when hot sounds like blowing at the engine.

I suspect a blocked exhaust although once upto speed it maintains which suggests that flow is achieved just no boost.

Might still be the turbo even though it seems to work. I will get around to doing something but seriously lacking interest in both it and the combo at the moment. Plus prices are shocking these days. Seeing 07 plates going for 4k :lol:
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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby ned » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:12 am

Glad it’s not just my fanny that smells hot and burning after a ride :shock: :lol:

Maybe there’s an exhaust leak at the manifold, if it’s leaking exhaust before the turbo would the turbo still spool up?
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Re: Poorly snowflake

Postby loot » Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:49 pm

Could be the manifold gasket i guess, I've pressurised as much as I can to 30psi and couldn't conclusively find anything. I'm considering taking the engine out and partial strip down. But it might be more economical to replace it, seems drastic but I've been driving it over a year in limp and smoky joe. I could get another turbo etc. But the van is looking a bit trampy these days so I'm not sure.
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