MK7 Rear Doors Cable Ducts Folded - Help!!

[snowjoe]

This looks like a horrible problem! But needs sorting so hoping someone else can advise how best to deal with it.
The pictures say it all below, rear door cable ducts have had it! How is this fixed?
Thanks

[metalworker0]

i had a look on catcar.info .. the drawings there .. don't look anything like yours

1418425 and 1418424 ford - here

http://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l= ... OCsxMzU%3D

had a look at ebay to see actual pictures, not drawings.. nothing comes up.

this stuff would be way better .. using google .. and the words --- as link too long to work here .
type in

articulated chain cable armour

for something that looks like so

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/612 ... SL500_.jpg

. but needs to be investigated, if it will fit in the door gap when closed

also you could try lay flat garden hose pipe

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31t ... L._AC_.jpg

all the best.mark

[tranmx2]

2012 Mk7.
LHS.
Has coloured wires to the upper brake light and number plate.
The tubes move about 6 inches within the door.
One tube has about 4 coloured wires in it the other tube is the carrier tube which may be solid.
Likely it'll be easier to cut the wires in the door and pillar then remove the tubes with the cut off wires within.
To access inside the pillar the light cluster shall need to be removed.
Connect the wires re' colours to your replacement wires which'll be within your replacement tube.
That tube may need to be fixed to the pillar.

Rhs.
Has all black wires to the lock.
You'll need to make sure you dont' get them mixed up.

If cutting the wires etc is daunting then likely the whole harness can be purchased and fitted.

[snowjoe]

i had a look on catcar.info .. the drawings there .. don't look anything like yours

1418425 and 1418424 ford - here

http://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l= ... OCsxMzU%3D

had a look at ebay to see actual pictures, not drawings.. nothing comes up.

this stuff would be way better .. using google .. and the words --- as link too long to work here .
type in

articulated chain cable armour

Thanks but not sure you understand what I mean. This thing is full of wires, no idea how the chain type thing could help, maybe me being dumb but didn't follow sorry

for something that looks like so

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/612 ... SL500_.jpg

. but needs to be investigated, if it will fit in the door gap when closed

also you could try lay flat garden hose pipe

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/31t ... L._AC_.jpg

all the best.mark

[snowjoe]

2012 Mk7.
LHS.
Has coloured wires to the upper brake light and number plate.
The tubes move about 6 inches within the door.
One tube has about 4 coloured wires in it the other tube is the carrier tube which may be solid.
Likely it'll be easier to cut the wires in the door and pillar then remove the tubes with the cut off wires within.
To access inside the pillar the light cluster shall need to be removed.
Connect the wires re' colours to your replacement wires which'll be within your replacement tube.
That tube may need to be fixed to the pillar.

Rhs.
Has all black wires to the lock.
You'll need to make sure you dont' get them mixed up.

If cutting the wires etc is daunting then likely the whole harness can be purchased and fitted.

Thanks but I'm pretty confused by this too!

I understand now that some cutting will be needed, pretty daunting but doable. But you said "Connect the wires re' colours to your replacement wires which'll be within your replacement tube" - What replacement tube? That's kinda what I'm asking, can that black tube that's crumpled on my doors be purchased? Any idea where I'd get them?

So are you suggesting I cut TWICE on each side, so cut them inside pillar (tricky!) AND cut them inside door as well, so when removing the tubes i also remove a section of wire, and then add custom wires and solder or crimp them both ends?

I am trying to follow but not sure I understand and I need to as once I cut there's no vehicle until it's all good

thanks

[hauteneur]

I also had this... I translate with website most of part of my post... it's complicated. I have LH MK7. I was advised to remove Doors Cable Ducts and put adhesive tape on it, tightening the electrical cables very tightly. I managed to remove it without cutting it by pulling it out through the rear bulbs. Inside I found a plug that could be disconnected. I removed all the bulbs ( red plastic ). My Rear Doors Cable Ducts was not exactly like yours it was more cut, twice and folded.

When I removed the protection installed on the door the end of it was disconnected and no longer moved in sync with the door closing. The result is as shown in your photo. This seemed to me to be the most important and effective place to repair.

I have two cylinders in my Doors Cable Ducts, one of which was empty in my case. I have the number plate light on this door and maybe other thing idk. The wash window is on the other door. So I thought about removing it but I think it maybe useless or with little effect. Reconnect with adhesive tape inside door and on the Doors Cable Ducts Folded it seems much more effective to me.

Today, I put adhesive tape on the Doors Cable Ducts to stiffen it and, inside the door, shortened the Doors Cable Ducts and removed part of it. I still have a small problem to solve. When closing, I need to prevent the Doors Cable Ducts from getting stuck against the bulb's electrical cable. It seems to me that it is designed to pass between the bodywork and the bulb. For now I have a second hand ^^

[tranmx2]

I understand now that some cutting will be needed, pretty daunting but doable. But you said "Connect the wires re' colours to your replacement wires which'll be within your replacement tube" - What replacement tube? That's kinda what I'm asking, can that black tube that's crumpled on my doors be purchased? Any idea where I'd get them?
What replacement tube?
Maybe a sustitute can be found.
Mightbe they can be repaired.
tube that's crumpled on my doors be purchased? Any idea where I'd get them. Don't know.

So are you suggesting I cut TWICE on each side, so cut them inside pillar (tricky!) AND cut them inside door as well, so when removing the tubes i also remove a section of wire, and then add custom wires and solder or crimp them both ends? - Yes.

I am trying to follow but not sure I understand and I need to as once I cut there's no vehicle until it's all good - sacrifices - thank your main person it is not off the road for longer.

You might be able to cut the pipe/wires at the bend/crindged rejoined and have them fit back into the tube. You'll need to make sure the tubes can move inside the door.
Tubes with wires lh door.

Tubes wirs lhs.JPG

[snowjoe]

With each post on this thread I am getting more and more confused, has AI opened accounts here?!
i used to get very different responses to this, for many years!

Does anyone know if the cable ducts/tubes can be replaced and if so, where they can be bought and how to replace them?

[metalworker0]

I answered with a fix
As i could not find the cable ducts on the wiring diagrams with ducts sold seperately.. so gave alternative ideas.

As the ducts are part of each wiring harness to the rear, one for left and one for right

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/317274122034? (note: not checked if this is the right one .. as so many varieties available for mk7s) just a typical one .. so you can see what i'm on about.

So not available on their own ... only available as part of the wiring loom.

Because they are assembled in such a way; as once assembled the wiring cannot be pulled through the ducts as it has connectors on it .

So fixing it involves:_
1. Buying the complete loom for each side either used or new.
2 . Chopping connectors off ... improvising ... and using the suggestions up there in my post .. the articulated stuff or flat garden hose, and re attaching the chopped connectors.
3. searching ebay for a few hours, (ive already spent 1 hour looking, so now its your turn ) until you come across lengths of that cable ducting being sold by the metre - and then you would still be chopping the wires , shoving through the ducting and reconnecting (soldering or crimping) the connectors,.

all the best.mark

[snowjoe]

Thanks Mark, your first post makes a lot more sense after reading that one. I understand now, I didn't realise the connectors are attached which means you can't just replace the duct itself (without cutting).

I suspect, looking at used prices, I'll probably have to have a go at cutting and reattaching. I can crimp or solder well enough, but might be tricky inside that damn hole behind the light clusters! A like for like replacement would of course be easiest but looks pricey. Handy to have a part number as I had no idea what to call them and I had tried googling for a long while before posting.
Thanks again, that sets me on the right track nicely

[metalworker0]

Well as you can see here .. there are 50 choices of rear loom, 25 right and 25 left for your transit .. so only you can lead yourself to the looms with the part numbers for your specific transit.

http://www.catcar.info/ford/?lang=en&l= ... A4ODArMTM1

all the best.mark

[tranmx2]

2006 to 2013 transit.
They aint all the same!

£185 Left side https://www.transitcenter.uk/rear-door- ... vH5FEMizP5
£199.50 right side https://www.transitcenter.uk/rear-right ... sTyFBg0v2r
£49.99 righthttps://www.ebay.co.uk/p/9064701783?iid ... ear%3A2007
More on fleabay.
£35 left https://woodlandspares.co.uk/products/f ... hJOIKwIA5B
Transit parts requires patience.

[snowjoe]

2006 to 2013 transit.
They aint all the same!

£185 Left side https://www.transitcenter.uk/rear-door- ... vH5FEMizP5
£199.50 right side https://www.transitcenter.uk/rear-right ... sTyFBg0v2r

Holy sh*t. That's me definitely needing wire cutters then

[metalworker0]

I've just looked on the Rapid Electronics site and the Farnell site ... no conduit found of your type, plenty of the round plastic convoluted tube everywhere .. but no flat double type. so ford must have it made specially for their looms, so you are back to improvising - with something else .

all the best.mark

[metalworker0]

This any good

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/277363048946?