Mk7 2.2 2011bad starting

[tompe]

Hi all after some help from u all as once again pulling my hair out right ive a mk7v2.2 2011 euro 4 transit in the last 18 months its had new injectors and deisal pump egr dmf clutch starter motor camshaft sensor crankshaft sensor the black box at the end of key barral heater plugs and still a bad starter can turn the key 10 times and wont start sometimes starter will wind on other times it will fire and the starter will cut straight off one it dose start it will go assoon as I turn the key .when it starts first time it will smoke a bit but clears fast any help would be great thanks inadvance

[andz327]

what horse power?
how many miles has it done?
what codes are you getting?
possibly worn timing chain causing cam and crank not to sync
when you say starter winds on do you mean its not catching and not turning engine over and just spinning or its turning over but not starting ???


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[trnx]

Fuel supply - poor electrical/tronic connection. Could be both.
E4
lots of posts re SCV PRV on HP pump. Posts re fuel filter, leak in fuel suction pipe.

[DanMK7uk]

Good advice so far just to add, may be worth checking out earth points too.

As previously mentioned though get it plugged in and see what information you get to go off and let us know.

[tompe]

what horse power?
how many miles has it done?
what codes are you getting?
possibly worn timing chain causing cam and crank not to sync
when you say starter winds on do you mean its not catching and not turning engine over and just spinning or its turning over but not starting ???


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P040 30 is the fault code 172457 miles .with starter it will fire but wont start and the starter will stop wont wind on other times when it fires the starter will wind on it the trend model so think its 180

[trnx]

P040 30 EGR info' on web.

[tompe]

P040 30 EGR info' on web.

It's had a genuine ford egr on it

[knobby1]

P040 30 EGR info' on web.

It's had a genuine ford egr on it

EGR valve stuck open or closed won't stop the engine starting. They don't need glow plugs to start either...unless ambient temps are -5C or below.

When were the learns last done..?? Euro-4 pumps rarely fail.

Lord Knobrot (Smithy)

[tompe]

The pump and injectors was change 3 years ago all genuine ford i brought the van 18 months ago as a none starting van took egr inlet manifold of and clean replaced egr heater plugs seemed to be ok then went to having to try 6/10 times for it to start changed starter motor still the same sometimes the starter wont wind on when it fires no start other times starter will wind on also change relays battery clean earth's there are no fault codes at all now put old camshaft sensor back in. When it dose start it smokes and smells like un burnt deisal .then rest of the day it will start as soon as u touch the key

[knobby1]

The pump and injectors was change 3 years ago all genuine ford i brought the van 18 months ago as a none starting van took egr inlet manifold of and clean replaced egr heater plugs seemed to be ok then went to having to try 6/10 times for it to start changed starter motor still the same sometimes the starter wont wind on when it fires no start other times starter will wind on also change relays battery clean earth's there are no fault codes at all now put old camshaft sensor back in. When it dose start it smokes and smells like un burnt deisal .then rest of the day it will start as soon as u touch the key

Once again...when were the learns last done..??

Lord Knobrot (Smithy)

[DanMK7uk]

Have you 300 bar at cranking (to add to knobbys last post).

You need to get forscan software onto it and see what’s happening.

[metalworker0]

Previous post in 2025.. what pump are you talking about? .

Cleaned all earth straps still messing around ive noticed that the feul pump is getting very hot after engine is off while running seem ok but to hot to touch when off is this the a failing pump

all the best..mark

[tompe]

The pump and injectors was change 3 years ago all genuine ford i brought the van 18 months ago as a none starting van took egr inlet manifold of and clean replaced egr heater plugs seemed to be ok then went to having to try 6/10 times for it to start changed starter motor still the same sometimes the starter wont wind on when it fires no start other times starter will wind on also change relays battery clean earth's there are no fault codes at all now put old camshaft sensor back in. When it dose start it smokes and smells like un burnt deisal .then rest of the day it will start as soon as u touch the key

Once again...when were the learns last done..??

Lord Knobrot (Smithy)

I would say when it had pump and injectors I not heard about learns before so couldn't be 100 percent on that wot dose it entails

[DanMK7uk]

Previous post in 2025.. what pump are you talking about? .

Cleaned all earth straps still messing around ive noticed that the feul pump is getting very hot after engine is off while running seem ok but to hot to touch when off is this the a failing pump

all the best..mark

Assume HP as euro 4 ?

[DanMK7uk]

[/quote]I would say when it had pump and injectors I not heard about learns before so couldn't be 100 percent on that wot dose it entails[/quote]

Its a service procedure which is often overlooked ! Knobby will explain better than I, its often where we start if things are a miss with idle / running / starting issues.