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3.73 rear axle????

Postby ryzman » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:35 am

what do you reckon if i fitted a 3.73 axle to my van... found one and will be able to make it fit!!! BUT do you think it will over gear it and just labour the engine with a load in the van?

i don't mind dropping to forth gear occasionally but don't want to be spanking the clutch and chasing the gears all the time!!! :D
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby winterheating » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:52 am

i would of thought with your power increase allready it will help a lot.

as youve allready got more power to weight than standard it shouldn't kill your acceleration.

i've just bought a 6 speed mondeo box for my van :!: :!: i can't wait to see the difference, and if it kills my accceleration, i'll just have to get the power up to match.
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby ryzman » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:56 am

winterheating wrote:i would of thought with your power increase allready it will help a lot.

as youve allready got more power to weight than standard it shouldn't kill your acceleration.

i've just bought a 6 speed mondeo box for my van :!: :!: i can't wait to see the difference, and if it kills my accceleration, i'll just have to get the power up to match.


http://westfield-world.com/gtc.html
check this web site you can put ya details in to check speed... i put mine in and at 4500 van should do like 120mph :lol:
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby Daveyboy » Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:55 am

Mine works transits got this ratio, just the a standard 115ps TDCi, I suppose it helps with the 6 speed box as the ratios are closer matched, I think its doing around 2300rpm at 70 in 6th. The other transits at work are mostly 140ps and they've got a factory towing pack and a lower diff set up, acceleration is quicker (more power and lower gearing) but you pay for it on the motorway with a busy engine. :(
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby lostpaul67 » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:18 pm

Found these figures today :)

Mk6 135ps Tdci-T350 lwb hi-top

Performance
Final drive ratio 3.77 4.27
Maximum speed, kph/mph 157/98 157/98
Acceleration - seconds
0-100kph/62mph 21 21
50-100kph/31-62mph 19 17

Fuel Economy
(MPG)

Final Drive ratio 3.77 4.27
Urban 25.4 24.4
Extra Urban 39.8 38.7
Combined 32.8 32.5



Mk6 115ps Tddi-T350 lwb hi-top

Performance
Final drive ratio 4.63 5.13 5.88
Maximum speed, kph/mph 145/90 139/86 125/78
0-100kph/62mph 26 26 26
50-100kph/31-62mph 22 20 24

Fuel Economy
(MPG)


Final Drive ratio 4.63 5.13 5.88

Urban 25.4 24.6 20.8
Extra Urban 42.8 37.7 35.8
Combined 34.0 31.7 28.2
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby ake » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:39 pm

Lovin your signature Lostpaul :lol:
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby winterheating » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:16 pm

thats good info there Lostpaul,

the 0-62 times conclude that the first few gears are the same ratio, do you think :?:
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby lostpaul67 » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:51 pm

This will tell you about the gearing

FORD TRANSIT 115PS 2.4L Duratorq TDdI
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

Engine type 2.4 litre TDdi DuraTorq North / South Installed
Displacement – cc 2402
Fuel type Diesel (max. 5% RME content)
Bore mm 89.9
Stroke mm 94.6
Max power kW/PS at rpm 84.6/115 @ 3800
Torque ISO Nm at rpm 285 @ 2300

Construction
Cylinders 4
Cylinder head Aluminium
Cylinder block Cast Iron
Compression 18.5:1 (+/- 0.5)
Valve gear 4 valves per cyl / twin cam with hydraulic adjust
Camshaft drive Duplex chain
Engine management Visteon EEC

Fuel injection Bosch – Pump Line Nozzle VP44
Forced Induction system Mitsubishi FGT (Fixed Geometry Turbo)

Fuel Economy
(MPG)


Final Drive ratio ...4.63 .......5.13 ......5.88

Urban ...............25.4 ......24.6 ..... 20.8
Extra Urban .......42.8 ......37.7 .....35.8
Combined ..........34.0 ......31.7 .....28.2

GTM
(350 LWB Hi Roof) 5000KG 5750KG 6000KG

Transmission
Gear ratios
1 st ...... 4.20
2 nd .....2.24
3 rd .....1.37
4 th ..... 1.00
5 th ..... 0.76
Reverse 3.60

Final Drive 4.63, 5.13 or 5.88
Flywheel Dual Mass Flywheel
Clutch 258mm self-adjusting single driven-plate clutch with low pedal-operating load.

Performance
Final drive ratio ..................4.63 ......5.13 ......5.88
Maximum speed, kph/mph ...145/90 ... 139/86 ...125/78
0-100kph/62mph ..................26 ..........26 .........26
50-100kph/31-62mph .............22 ..........20 .........24
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby lostpaul67 » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:55 pm

FORD TRANSIT 137PS 2.4L DuraTorq TDCi
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

Engine type 2.4 litre TDCi DuraTorq North / South Installed
Displacement – cc 2402
Fuel type Diesel (max. 5% RME content)
Bore mm 89.9
Stroke mm 94.6
Max power kW/PS at rpm 101/137 @ 3500
Torque ISO Nm at rpm 375 @ 2000

Construction
Cylinders 4
Cylinder head Aluminium
Cylinder block Cast Iron
Compression 18.5:1 (+/- 0.5)
Valve gear 4 valves per cyl / twin cam with hydraulic adjust
Camshaft drive Duplex chain
Engine management Delphi ECU

Fuel injection Common Rail with 1600 bar pressure
Forced Induction system Vacuum-controlled Mitsubishi VGT

Fuel Economy
(MPG)

Final Drive ratio ..... 3.77 ..... 4.27
Urban ...................25.4 ......24.4
Extra Urban ..........39.8 ......38.7
Combined .............32.8 .....32.5

GTM
(350 LWB Hi Roof) 5750KG 6000KG

Transmission
Gear ratios
1 st ...5.44
2 nd ...2.84
3 rd ...1.72
4 th ...1.22
5 th ...1.00
6 th ...0.79
Reverse 4.94

Final Drive 3.77 and 4.27
Flywheel Dual Mass Flywheel
Clutch Heavy-duty 258mm self-adjusting, single driven-plate clutch with low pedal-operating load.


Performance
Final drive ratio....... .......... 3.77 ..........4.27
Maximum speed, kph/mph ..157/98 ......157/98
Acceleration - seconds
0-100kph/62mph ................21 ..............21
50-100kph/31-62mph ..........19 ..............17
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby ryzman » Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:10 pm

interesting i thought that the 5th gear ratio in my box was 0.82? is there another 5 sped box with a differant ratio then?
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby jolly olly » Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:23 pm

Can anyone post up the the details of a mk 6 90 ps (lwb semi if it makes any difference) cheers.
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby Daveyboy » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:06 pm

Has the mk7 115ps the same ratio six speed box as the 140ps?
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby winterheating » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:30 pm

jolly olly wrote:Can anyone post up the the details of a mk 6 90 ps (lwb semi if it makes any difference) cheers.

lostpaul67 wrote:This will tell you about the gearing

FORD TRANSIT 115PS 2.4L Duratorq TDdI
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

Engine type 2.4 litre TDdi DuraTorq North / South Installed
Displacement – cc 2402
Fuel type Diesel (max. 5% RME content)
Bore mm 89.9
Stroke mm 94.6
Max power kW/PS at rpm 84.6/115 @ 3800
Torque ISO Nm at rpm 285 @ 2300

Construction
Cylinders 4
Cylinder head Aluminium
Cylinder block Cast Iron
Compression 18.5:1 (+/- 0.5)
Valve gear 4 valves per cyl / twin cam with hydraulic adjust
Camshaft drive Duplex chain
Engine management Visteon EEC

Fuel injection Bosch – Pump Line Nozzle VP44
Forced Induction system Mitsubishi FGT (Fixed Geometry Turbo)

Fuel Economy
(MPG)


Final Drive ratio ...4.63 .......5.13 ......5.88

Urban ...............25.4 ......24.6 ..... 20.8
Extra Urban .......42.8 ......37.7 .....35.8
Combined ..........34.0 ......31.7 .....28.2

GTM
(350 LWB Hi Roof) 5000KG 5750KG 6000KG

Transmission
Gear ratios
1 st ...... 4.20
2 nd .....2.24
3 rd .....1.37
4 th ..... 1.00
5 th ..... 0.76
Reverse 3.60

Final Drive 4.63, 5.13 or 5.88
Flywheel Dual Mass Flywheel
Clutch 258mm self-adjusting single driven-plate clutch with low pedal-operating load.

Performance
Final drive ratio ..................4.63 ......5.13 ......5.88
Maximum speed, kph/mph ...145/90 ... 139/86 ...125/78
0-100kph/62mph ..................26 ..........26 .........26
50-100kph/31-62mph .............22 ..........20 .........24



looks like it applys to the 90 aswell

EDIT sorry KW=84.6 :oops: :oops:
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby lostpaul67 » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:33 pm

winterheating wrote:thats good info there Lostpaul,

the 0-62 times conclude that the first few gears are the same ratio, do you think :?:


The 0-62 times conclude that the 125/130/140ps fwd is a lot quicker on accelleration :lol:
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Re: 3.73 rear axle????

Postby winterheating » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:33 pm

what about some info on the FWD's MK6 :?:

and possibly mondeo tdci 130 6 speed?
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