Front disc removal.....HELP REQUIRED......,(please).

[Felixx]

Following on from my earlier post on the removal of the front discs on a LWB/RWD 350 2001 van,I now have the disc and hub assembly away form the steering knuckle,(it was surprisingly easy to undo the bolts!!),however,I had a real job separating the hub and wheel knuckle from each other.I eventually hammered the disc/hub away etc,but the steering knuckle has separated and the bearing assembly has come away with it.Instead of the whole knuckle coming off with the disc I now have the taper race of the bearing showing with the other half still in situ in the knuckle!!.Is this normal?,and will getting it back in place be a bark or will I have to replace the whole bearing assembly etc,on both sides?.Any help would really be appreciated.Thank's in advance. FELIXX.

[Brains_transit]

That's normal for the outer race to stay on the shaft. Cut into it with a grinder but not too far then hammer the cut with a old screwdriver or chisel and it will crack and come off and a press is required to fit the new bearings.

[Brains_transit]

If you had spun the bearing round the disc would of only came off leaving the bearing intact.

[Felixx]

That's normal for the outer race to stay on the shaft. Cut into it with a grinder but not too far then hammer the cut with a old screwdriver or chisel and it will crack and come off and a press is required to fit the new bearings.

Thanks for that,but how do I remove the other part of the bearing thats still in situ in the steering knuckle?,and when you say use a press...just exactly what type will I require the use of?. FELIXX.

[Felixx]

That's normal for the outer race to stay on the shaft. Cut into it with a grinder but not too far then hammer the cut with a old screwdriver or chisel and it will crack and come off and a press is required to fit the new bearings.

I did,I rotated the disc and hammered it at the same time and that was the result.FELIXX.

[Brains_transit]

Is the main part of the bearing still attached to the van

[Felixx]

Is the main part of the bearing still attached to the van

Yes.I undid the torx bolts and rotated the wheel hub/disc,hammering it at the same time,and that's the result,the hub part of the bearing came away still attached to the hub shaft. FELIXX.

[bigjohnthomas]

have you got a pic i dont get it

[Felixx]

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have you got a pic i dont get it

Sorry I don't have any pics.But,to sum the situation up,when I unbolted the 5 torx bolt that hold the wheel hub/disc to the steering knuckle,the hub and disc have come away with a taper bearing attached to the shaft.The front of the bearing where the 5 torx bolts have been removed from is still in situ on the steering knuckle.If I replace the old disc will I have a problem refitting the unit back together again or will I need any special tools to achieve this or will the whole lot bolt back together if I tighten the spline shaft up with the old hub nut,remove it then fit the new hub nut,(hopefully compressing the bearing back into position)?. FELIXX.

[nigel green]

i think it is very unlikely for you to press the bearing back together without damaging the grease seals on the wheel bearing.

I would have thought the best thing to do is to change the wheel bearing,

Also check the drive flange as it should be hard to remove inner bearing race without press.

[Felixx]

i think it is very unlikely for you to press the bearing back together without damaging the grease seals on the wheel bearing.

I would have thought the best thing to do is to change the wheel bearing,

Also check the drive flange as it should be hard to remove inner bearing race without press.

I was afraid someone was going to tell me that!.I"m really surprised that the knuckle didn't split and come away like the example shown in the Haynes manual,given the forces you apply when moving the whole assembly to remove it.Would a viable alternative to having to use a press,(which I don't have access to),be to replacing the whole assembly,steering knuckle and all?. FELIXX.

[Brains_transit]

When I done my bearings I cut the outer race off as I mentioned above then took the bearings and hub without the disc fitted to a local garage and they let me use the press. Since both can be done in 5-10 mins they won't charge you much. Hammering them on is the pikey way.

[pluspetit]

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have you got a pic i dont get it

Hi,

here are some pics and a manual, but in german. http://womofamilie.de/Rep-1.htm#Bremsscheibenwechsel .Everything explained on this site I learnt in this forum, the very best forum about Transit in www.

Greeting

Gernot

[angeleye]

should of done a search and followed this
technical how to section
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=32015

[Felixx]

When I done my bearings I cut the outer race off as I mentioned above then took the bearings and hub without the disc fitted to a local garage and they let me use the press. Since both can be done in 5-10 mins they won't charge you much. Hammering them on is the pikey way.

I just can't believe that the knuckle wouldn't split away and has separated the way it has done.There's no damage to the bearing race or the face of the shell inside the knuckle so I was wondering if I try and refit it and get it into the steering knuckle enough to get the old torx bolt into their holes,then draw the bearing back in so to speak,by tightening them up progressively.If I get it back in then I can then refit the new torx bolts.What do you think???????. FELIXX.