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Bottom ball joint mk1

Postby metalworker0 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:19 pm

Old vintage tool better than modern

Spent a long time today getting the bottom ball joint out

After first removing the circlip, i just hammered on it with a steel drift..would not shift

Heated it up with a mapp gas blow torch
tried again -- would not shift

Got my air chisel out .. was a clarke one...heated it , used this air chisel more than ten cycles of heating and chiselling ......nothing ..would not budge 3 hours went by.

Try something else i thought.

Had a look in my workshop and there was this air hammer ..but it only came with a riveting head when i found it at a car boot sale.

i thought ---give it a go

it removed that ball joint in 10 seconds flat...wow ...my Favorited tool now

it must be something to do with the way the hammer persecution mechanism inside it works..felt different and made different sound.

pictures show tool on the right ..clarke is on the left.

Don't know how i would of managed without, so if you have an 18 year old van and you haven't got the tools to take it out ...you are not going anywhere.
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Re: Bottom ball joint mk1

Postby metalworker0 » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:47 pm

NOTE, to put the new ball joint in requires you take the whole hub off and use a press to install it

I tried and failed - ruined the new ball joint... trying to install in situ.

I went up to my local garage, asked them, and they said it wasn't possible.

So lesson learned ...don't take any notice of youtube,,, and take the whole lot off to start with.

You need a press ..luckily .i do have a press.

Pictures soon .next week


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Re: Bottom ball joint mk1

Postby metalworker0 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:19 pm

Oh yeah ..and if you need the cover/ heat shield, ford part number 4378076 which is usually rotten - that'll be £14.99 off ebay.

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Re: Bottom ball joint mk1

Postby metalworker0 » Mon May 06, 2024 6:33 pm

more pictures
Very hard to set up in press ,.,..which is why if you buy a press you have to have lots of bits of metal around to make into supports and drivers. (pictures 2 and 3) show it in the press. note shims to make it level.
Had to make an extra alloy support for it to be held in the press (picture 5)..you also can see the cup i made to put over the ball joint to drive it in on the flange ...also shown the little cover/guard in place . part numbers
Picture 4 shows it fitted together with the new guard

The knuckle ..i took it to bare metal ..and painted it .
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Re: Bottom ball joint mk1

Postby metalworker0 » Mon May 06, 2024 6:35 pm

more showing driver cup
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Re: Bottom ball joint mk1

Postby Boghopper » Wed May 15, 2024 5:51 pm

I can get my old ball joints out with a bit of heat and a 5lb lump hammer and drift.

I put my new ball joint in the freezer, over night. Then, when ready, I have a piece of thick walled tube that fits the metal rim on the ball joint, I use that to tap the new ball joint in. Put copaslip on rhe ball joint and in the circlip groove. I made my own stainless covers from a piece of stainless plate I bought from Ebay. I bought one of those Q Max, sheet metal hole punch things to knock the hole in the stainless sheet.
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Re: Bottom ball joint mk1

Postby ned » Wed May 15, 2024 7:29 pm

I’ve used my sds to get them out and the weight of the van to press them back in before today
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Re: Bottom ball joint mk1

Postby metalworker0 » Wed May 15, 2024 10:55 pm

I don't know what went wrong on the first ball joint ..second one glided in with ease...yes i know i had a different set up with the press..but it was considerably nicer fit.

both borg and beck, both from the same vendor ..both advertised as fitting mk1 connect

but had different borg and beck part numbers



first hard to fit ball joint ....in freezer overnight...and hole heated with blow torch

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335304111595

borg back - BBJ5707
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second ..easy to fit ball joint
not in freezer .....hole not heated up..but done on 30 tonne press

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235442602493

BBJ5619

and there are even more different numbers out there for borg and back ball joints that fit the mk1 connect .

so come to the conclusion that not all are equal ...depends who set the machine up to make them at the borg beck factory and if it was a friday.

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