Rear Disc Conversion

[GKandR4CH]

They do not need any more fluid than the drums. Remember the principal of the brake caliper and wheel cylinder is the same.
I had all this many years ago on my old Escort MK4 when I converted the rear drums to discs. People said you will need a brake bias valve to split the system 60/40. That was a load of rubbish.
The Connect was made to have rear discs and there is nothing different fitted to the Connect in respect of discs fitted. Both systems will work on the van with no other modifications to the braking system.

[Mylee]

Honey monster, I have an axle flip and rear drums with a LSV. The problem isn't repositioning the valve, but that the connecting spring is not long enough once the axle is flipped. There are a number of solutions of which I've been talking to Vale about today. Whether the LSV needs to be connected for the MOT isn't quite clear yet. I asked two MOTers, one said yes, one said no as long as each wheel meets the minimum braking force and is balanced.
The LSV isn't an issue for me as I never carry weight.

[valetech]

Sorry, crap answer. My van has no ABS but does have a load sensing valve (53plate 75ps) Thats my concern about doing an axle flip,Would you have room between the axle and body to reposition the valve. Ive no intention of fitting discs (Only 75ps) but just thinking if you did have a LSV and fitted discs would you have any problems. By that I mean if the calipers need less volume of brake fluid to apply brakes than the cylinders would the rear wheels lock up under normal braking before the front ones started to brake.

on the axle flip you dont reposition the valve, you adjust the spring.well thats what someone said on here.but its not long enough so i think the best way is to drill a new hole in the bracket for the spring closer to the axle or to make the spring longer.

i think honey monster is right about the re-adjusting the valve for calipers as they will brake better than drums,its a very simple job just losen the grub screw at the end of the spring and re-adjust then just do up the screw

[electric]

Honey monster, I have an axle flip and rear drums with a LSV. The problem isn't repositioning the valve, but that the connecting spring is not long enough once the axle is flipped. There are a number of solutions of which I've been talking to Vale about today. Whether the LSV needs to be connected for the MOT isn't quite clear yet. I asked two MOTers, one said yes, one said no as long as each wheel meets the minimum braking force and is balanced.
The LSV isn't an issue for me as I never carry weight.

Disconnecting the load sensing valve is an MOT failure the manual states that a load sensing valve removed or disconnected where one in know to have been fitted as standard is a failure.

Click on this link and you can check whats tested and also what is and isn't a failure. (click on MOT inspection manuals and guides)
http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/d ... guides.htm

[GKandR4CH]

But what if it was removed and the new relevant pieces put on? Who would know it had been removed in the first place??

[electric]

But what if it was removed and the new relevant pieces put on? Who would know it had been removed in the first place??

I think most MOT testers should realise that if the vans not got abs then it would normally have a load sensing valve fitted. Ford did fit the valve for saftey reasons. I would be very careful running around with the load sensing valve disconnected I don't know which way the valve works without checking it but you could either have no rear braking or have too much rear braking.

I got my first connect back in 2002 but it had a knocking noise from the rear brakes when I took it back to the dealers they told me the sensing valve wasn't adjusted correctly so they adjusted it under warrenty. I didn't think they had adjusted it correctly so I tested it on some MOT brake rollors to find it had no rear brakes.

GKandR4CH you've got abs so your axle flip and disc conversion should be fine but it would be interesting to see the brake readings when you next get it MOT'd.

I'm not having a dig at anybody but just be careful guys.

[valetech]

Electric and gk you are both right,vans are ment to have the load sensor fitted
If its there then it needs to work,but in the past I have removed them when building rs turboed vans and 2.0 16v zetecs
I would fit the complete braking system which resulted in removing the load sensor.
All of them past the not.as long as the brake balance is right.

It down really to the moter at the time of ticket

[GKandR4CH]

Well the calipers are definately working.
It's solid with the handbrake cable engaged. I cannot even move the wheels with a strap and using the foot brake they hold just as well so would think it would be like a 2010/11 van or with discs installed as standard.

[Mylee]

Just don't loose the connecting spring/rod. Frauds want £161 for a replacement . They only supply it as a complete unit with the LSV

[GKandR4CH]

Well I finally found time to put the rear discs on to match the front.
That completes the conversion.

[simonwwfc]

looks like another project

[FORDMADdavegarner]

Hi would a transit connect 2014 rear axel be OK to do this conversion or would I have to have 2010 axel

[RileyJames]

Yes jack.

You will need the stub axles/hubs aswell,as they are different.
The ones for calipers have 2 extra holes.
The brake hoses fit from your drums but you do also have to change the handbrake cables


Me and gk went in halfs for a complete axle from a 2010 connect with disc brakes.

Got it, thanks for the info.