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Re: Can I drive with foglights on all the time on 2007 conne

Postby Transit-man-van » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:53 am

dumper wrote:Bit confused but as I see it pre daylight running lights light switch whatever type of switching from off move to

Position number 1 the side lights come on really used for parking on roads with no lights or in use with fog lights in really bad fog if the back glare is really bad used with dip beam off. Also can be used in heavy rain ,If you have daylight running lights it will turn them off.

Position 2 will be dipped beam + side lights can be used with front or rear fog lights

Then it’s down to the dip/ main beam switch to select main beam when not affecting oncoming traffic can be used with spotlight that go out when switched back to dip lights

Number 3 on modern vehicles will be automatic lights that turn on as it gets dark some vehicles also have automatic dipping headlights.
And automatic cornering lights

As the op commented on new cars the headlights are getting to bright the RAC has been on the news last week saying that they are now to bright and blinding on coming drivers .for me drivers with the better main beam tend not to dip

The lighting regulations say 55 W dip 65 W main beam I think now it should be classified by lumens nowadays you can even get dazzled by oncoming cyclists LED light bulbs are that good.


Ok given all the other replies about differing light configurations it seems I have no parking lights and have the "high end" foglights :lol: of both front and back. Mine does not correlate to your above description at all. For me it is position 1 dipped beam or 2 main beam. There are no further turns then unless pulling out once or twice for front and rear fog lights respectively and one or two further turns which I can't recall since I only figured this out and tried once the other day before making this post. Either way they are certainly fog lights and only 2 turns for dim or full beam. Cannot envision how the first turn could be parking light as that would then mean there would be no dipped beam, so I am just inferring the first must be dipped. In fact I can confirm it is going by the little image on the rotary which is the standard dipped icon.

I am also still quite sure the light is only 5w as stated in the manual and the links I posted earlier.

I am interested to buy some new bulbs to see how much difference they will make. Going from 5w to 55 surely would make a massive difference, 11x one may expect! Even the lowest end modern budget bulb will probably make huge improvement.
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Re: Can I drive with foglights on all the time on 2007 conne

Postby Altransit » Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:32 am

Transit-man-van wrote:For me it is position 1 dipped beam or 2 main beam. There are no further turns then unless pulling out once or twice for front and rear fog lights respectively and one or two further turns which I can't recall since I only figured this out and tried once the other day before making this post. Either way they are certainly fog lights and only 2 turns for dim or full beam. Cannot envision how the first turn could be parking light as that would then mean there would be no dipped beam, so I am just inferring the first must be dipped. In fact I can confirm it is going by the little image on the rotary which is the standard dipped icon.

I am also still quite sure the light is only 5w as stated in the manual and the links I posted earlier.

I am interested to buy some new bulbs to see how much difference they will make. Going from 5w to 55 surely would make a massive difference, 11x one may expect! Even the lowest end modern budget bulb will probably make huge improvement.

If the position one of the switch illuminates the 5w bulbs, then those are the parking, or sidelights.

Position two will be headlights (in addition to parking lights) whether main or dipped beam is dependant on the position of the left hand (indicator) stalk. I can't remember which, but you either pull it towards you, or push it away from you to change between dip and main beams.
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Re: Can I drive with foglights on all the time on 2007 conne

Postby dumper » Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:05 pm

I’ll try and make what I mean clearer

Position 0 on the switch all lights off ignition off everything will be off if you turn on the ignition on the daylight running lights will automatically come on or if a early vehicle the dim dip will come on it uses a low current in the dip beam bulb.
Turn to position 1 the front side lights/rear tail lights/number plate/dash lights all come on and the daylight running or dim dip will be off.
Turn to position 2 the dip beam will come on or main beam depending on dip switch use .
On my mk8 if I turn the ignition on or start the engine the daylight running lights come on if I turn the side lights on it turns the daylight running lights off but my Toyota Yaris the daylight running lights only turn on when I start moving off .
I did have a problem with the dim dip system years ago the driver came in saying the dip beam was very dim and main beam would only work when you flashed the headlights it turned out the main light switch was faulty and not turning dip beam on and he was running on just dim dip.
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Postby Transit-man-van » Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:46 am

Altransit wrote:
Transit-man-van wrote:For me it is position 1 dipped beam or 2 main beam. There are no further turns then unless pulling out once or twice for front and rear fog lights respectively and one or two further turns which I can't recall since I only figured this out and tried once the other day before making this post. Either way they are certainly fog lights and only 2 turns for dim or full beam. Cannot envision how the first turn could be parking light as that would then mean there would be no dipped beam, so I am just inferring the first must be dipped. In fact I can confirm it is going by the little image on the rotary which is the standard dipped icon.

I am also still quite sure the light is only 5w as stated in the manual and the links I posted earlier.

I am interested to buy some new bulbs to see how much difference they will make. Going from 5w to 55 surely would make a massive difference, 11x one may expect! Even the lowest end modern budget bulb will probably make huge improvement.

If the position one of the switch illuminates the 5w bulbs, then those are the parking, or sidelights.

Position two will be headlights (in addition to parking lights) whether main or dipped beam is dependant on the position of the left hand (indicator) stalk. I can't remember which, but you either pull it towards you, or push it away from you to change between dip and main beams.


Yes but with all the difference in models and light configurations other users have stated above how can you be so confident that mine is not just different than how you envision it and configuration you were just not aware of? I already linked above that the ford website itself shows 5w lights as headlights. Anyway not much point splitting hairs about it. Actually speaking of the stalk it may be pertinent as I have been unable to get this to do anything except the one flash of full beam while holding it not continuous. Should there be more functionality than that?

I was driving in the dark yesterday and I had a look at the lights when I was stopped. The dipped (position 1) is a different bulb for sure bit it is on the inner side not the outer side of the plastic enclosure. So on the side nearer the engine. They are tiny bulbs and definitely light rather than some blown light illumination someone else suggested they could be earlier, They are tiny separate bulbs on the inner side.

When I went for my food shop while still dark I put the foggers on and did not receive any disgruntled flashes from oncoming traffic so this is a good sign it didn't bother anyone. Also, now being more aware of them, I noted just how many have little lights below the main ones. What are these called? DRLs someone wrote above that look like foglamps. EDIT: Oh I see daytime running lights. So they can be placed separately low down where foglights were traditionally? I also noted just how bright most other low lights were in comparison even to my foglights. One car's lights on dimmed, I would presume, still flooded the light in front of me.

The fogs allowed me some acceptable vision though! I could actually see what was in front of me rather than relying on desperately looking for the dim outline of the middle line and guessing my trajectory in relation of the other car's lights, until the oncoming car lit up the way.
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Re: Can I drive with foglights on all the time on 2007 conne

Postby Transit-man-van » Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:00 am

dumper wrote:I’ll try and make what I mean clearer

Position 0 on the switch all lights off ignition off everything will be off if you turn on the ignition on the daylight running lights will automatically come on or if a early vehicle the dim dip will come on it uses a low current in the dip beam bulb.
Turn to position 1 the front side lights/rear tail lights/number plate/dash lights all come on and the daylight running or dim dip will be off.
Turn to position 2 the dip beam will come on or main beam depending on dip switch use .
On my mk8 if I turn the ignition on or start the engine the daylight running lights come on if I turn the side lights on it turns the daylight running lights off but my Toyota Yaris the daylight running lights only turn on when I start moving off .
I did have a problem with the dim dip system years ago the driver came in saying the dip beam was very dim and main beam would only work when you flashed the headlights it turned out the main light switch was faulty and not turning dip beam on and he was running on just dim dip.


Ok from what you are saying just turning the ignition with no turns should illuminate some lights? This seems like a newer thing with the obsession with dayrunning lights though no? Also what is the point of those things just stupid and wasteful imo.

There is definitely no illumination until any turns are made and I certainly appreciate that given the above. I also never noticed these always on bulbs until the last 10 years or so then they are suddenly everywhere, Mine being 2007 is it not safe to assume they were simply not de rigueur then?
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Re: Can I drive with foglights on all the time on 2007 conne

Postby ned » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:19 am

Why don’t you just upgrade the headlight bulbs.

I drive with my front fog/bumper light on on unlit country roads but turn them off when there’s street lights, not that the street lights are much use these days
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Re: Can I drive with foglights on all the time on 2007 conne

Postby dumper » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:14 pm

I can’t remember when dim dip and then daylight running lights came in in the uk Volvo had it for years before that but I think they made it law because of all the dickheads who would not put their lights in bad weather even today how many old cars you see running with no lights on when visibility is bad.
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Re: Can I drive with foglights on all the time on 2007 conne

Postby ned » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:14 pm

dumper wrote:I can’t remember when dim dip and then daylight running lights came in in the uk Volvo had it for years before that but I think they made it law because of all the dickheads who would not put their lights in bad weather even today how many old cars you see running with no lights on when visibility is bad.


Wasn’t/isn’t it law in Volvo land that light have to be on all the time hence why all Volvos have there lights on? How many dickheads do you see without lights on at night due to the drl’s, I think auto lights, auto wipers and heated screens should be standard on all vehicles these days.

Also I think people need to be taught that if you can see the car behind turn your rear fog light off, they can bloody see you (in foggy conditions) not everybody has the common sense we all have
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Re: Can I drive with foglights on all the time on 2007 conne

Postby dumper » Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:08 pm

ned wrote:
dumper wrote:I can’t remember when dim dip and then daylight running lights came in in the uk Volvo had it for years before that but I think they made it law because of all the dickheads who would not put their lights in bad weather even today how many old cars you see running with no lights on when visibility is bad.


Wasn’t/isn’t it law in Volvo land that light have to be on all the time hence why all Volvos have there lights on? How many dickheads do you see without lights on at night due to the drl’s, I think auto lights, auto wipers and heated screens should be standard on all vehicles these days.

Also I think people need to be taught that if you can see the car behind turn your rear fog light off, they can bloody see you (in foggy conditions) not everybody has the common sense we all have


Yes ned Saab also had them it’s a requirement over there I’m no fan of auto headlights my Yaris has auto dipping head lights on a series of fast bends at night a on coming car that was on main beam as I was both of us not dazzling each other mine had auto dip switch on dipped the lights and very nearly had me off the road .the auto wipers on my transit was inconsistent sometimes when it need to wipe it wouldn’t and sometimes it would go mad without any real rain on the screen .
Some of the modern technology on cars is good such as ABS . Cruise control.. speed limit .
To much is controlled by the car so far I’ve had turned off on my mk8 anti stall ,stop start auto wipers and headlights I like to control when something happens when driving .
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