Lowered my connect.

[NikFrisbee]

Been a few on this forum of late, DONT FEED THE TROLLS....
We all no who they are..

[van mann]

And my final word on this subject.

Take a look at this van


It was developed and made by FORD
It has the SAME REAR LOWERING METHOD AS I USE .Even down to the standard leaf springs.Except it uses coilovers

[GKandR4CH]

Now I'd like to know where they got the coilovers from as I cannot find any.

[Mylee]

Now I'd like to know where they got the coilovers from as I cannot find any.

H and R one off's

[jibster344]

lowered mine yesterday with this kit! No problems for me, although i will never carry much weight at all... As said 100 times, its been around for years and years, as long as its a nice strong decent weld, nothing to worry about.

[g-man]

lets have a look at it then....ok seen it now

[van mann]

lowered mine yesterday with this kit! No problems for me, although i will never carry much weight at all... As said 100 times, its been around for years and years, as long as its a nice strong decent weld, nothing to worry about.

At last ,common sense from someone that has actually done it.
Lets see some pics of it lowered.

[jibster344]

lowered mine yesterday with this kit! No problems for me, although i will never carry much weight at all... As said 100 times, its been around for years and years, as long as its a nice strong decent weld, nothing to worry about.

At last ,common sense from someone that has actually done it.
Lets see some pics of it lowered.

its all i here mate
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=98135

[knighty1981]

bit late into this thread...

but a lot of the big/long iveco springs are mounted like this (under the axle)

I thought it was a mod the first time I saw it... but it's not...


so if one of those is ok like that (big, long, 3.5ton)... a connect will be fine

[L200Lee]

Just to add to this thread, I searched axle flips on google, and in the states there are many companies offering exactly the same kit, done exactly the same way for 4x4 trucks, ie; dodge ram's and those things weigh alot! So I think a connect will be more than capable of having this mod done.



OR::

I thought of another add on to assist with those who want to lower the rear and carry weight.
(these are quickly drawn up under the influence of Magners Cider) so don't laugh! (too much!)

The lowering scenario


And my idea of a hook type rod, welded to the axle, run under the bottom plate and back over the axle, all fully welded.


Think it can be done??

[Wobby]

Just to add to this thread, I searched axle flips on google, and in the states there are many companies offering exactly the same kit, done exactly the same way for 4x4 trucks, ie; dodge ram's and those things weigh alot! So I think a connect will be more than capable of having this mod done.



OR::

I thought of another add on to assist with those who want to lower the rear and carry weight.
(these are quickly drawn up under the influence of Magners Cider) so don't laugh! (too much!)

The lowering scenario


And my idea of a hook type rod, welded to the axle, run under the bottom plate and back over the axle, all fully welded.


Think it can be done??

Ha ha, i can't follow what them drawing are about Lee

Just get the kit and get it fitted!

[Brit 50]

And my final word on this subject.

Take a look at this van


It was developed and made by FORD
It has the SAME REAR LOWERING METHOD AS I USE .Even down to the standard leaf springs.Except it uses coilovers

Are you honestly, really, genuinely saying it has leaf spring rear end WITH coilovers! Jesus! Yeah, I'd rush out and buy suspension components from you.

[Brit 50]

Rear u bolts will be over engineered by FORD.If a load capacity is 1000kg they won't be designed to snap at 1100kg.More likley to be at around 2000kg or even more.These are 14mm high tensile steel u bolts not 3mm chocolate ones.The bolts at either end of the leaf spring into the body that take the spring weight are only 15mm.
Lets here from people that have actually done this mod and not armchair pundits spreading doom and gloom that don,t know oen end of a spanner form another.Makes no odds to me either way.Lower your van or keep it standard,it's up to you.I didn,t get into this to make money,just to help other connect owners out as the biggest question on this forum is" HOW DO I LOWER THE REAR OF A CONNECT"?.
As for insurance,make sure you notify them about your alloy wheesl,colour coded bumpers,mirrors,different seats because if you make it more attractive to thieves and don,t tell them,insurance VOID.

Armchair pundit lol

Ok, enlighten us with your wisdom, why are the rear spring brackets not supplied made as one piece but are sold to be welded to the original by anyone who thinks they can stick two bits of metal together with all the inherent problems that involves? How will the welded brackets perform with lateral loading as the metal has altered its strength in the middle of the bracket due to the welding process? Why would you weld two bits of metal together to support your springs when surely one completely new part would be so much safer? Would you advise holding the axle in a jig while applying copious amounts of heat to one side of the axle when welding the new brackets to it? How does this modification you are selling the parts for affect the scrub line? (yeah google it to find out what it means) know one end of a spanner, ha!

You may feel that you are 'just helping connect owners out' but if you are not an engineer and do not even have the basic understanding of how suspension works then you are a danger to others. The BIG question on this forum should be......
How do I lower my connect SAFETLY!

So i take it you havn't lowered or adjusted the rear axle of a connect then.
Why do i sell the brackets and expect people to weld them themselves.I would assume they will get a acompitant welder.If you purchased a kitchen from B&Q ,fitted it yourself and it looked sh*t and the cupboards didn't open .......would you blame B&Q for not checking your ability or should you have got some one compitant to do the job properly and safley??????

When lowered the SRUB line is within recommended perameters.
Only 1 inch lower than rear shock mount which is factory set.

As for welding the brackets alters it,s strengh.It,s just a duplicut of how it,s done at the factory.
Mig wlding would not alter 7mm steel plate or your doing something wrong.
Would love to know what line of work you are in.
Just want to make sure you are right so i can tell the 1000,s of car and van owners that have used this method NOT to use their motors.
And also WARN!!!!!! this company on ebay that use exactley the same method.

SRUB line? You clearly have no idea what SCRUB line is and if you are lowering a vehicle it is imperative you do! And if you have lowered it then it has altered.

As for welding an extra length of metal on to a bracket how on earth can that be "how it's done at the factory" when it's a stamped steel bracket, to get good penetration you need heat and all welding alters the structure of the steel. Quite simply put, the idea of welding a bit on a bracket when making a new one piece one would be far stronger, easier and better looking to say the least! The rear spring brackets take loadings from all angles, cornering, braking etc, they are not just there to adjust van height. As for the welding of 7mm plate then you clearly have no experience with welding either!

What line of work am I in? Me to know, you to guess, but I will state again, unless you know what you are doing engineering wise and can answer questions that may arise when using one of your "kits" then I would seriously look at other suppliers/options if I was considering lowering my van. I understand you are just making a couple of bucks getting some brackets cut after copying someone else's idea but you are getting involved with something clearly out of your league and god forbid if something was to happen you probably are not in the situation technically and legally to cover your own a**. And just because someone else is doing it does not make it right! Flipping the axle drastically reduces suspension movement and hitting the bump stops is never a clever idea because at that point something is bending or getting damaged. That's why chassis alterations are often needed when you do it properly, to give a safe amount of movement. But that's expensive and it's cheaper to do it like you propose, but safer it is not. Legally, if you supply something it has to be fit for purpose and if an accident were to occur any engineer would make toilet paper of your design and recommendations in court. And saying everyone else does it (not thousands by the way) won't be accepted either.

Short version, someone has an accident possibly linked to your "kit" your screwed! Public liability cover or not.

[Brit 50]

P.s. Not a troll, just when I see something I feel is clearly a bad idea, badly engineered and badly carried out then I have to speak up.

I won't post again on the subject, if you want a second opinion go talk to an engineer who knows about suspension mods and make your own mind up. As with everything, do your homework before doing mods like this, sticking a head unit and amp in is unlikely to cause an accident, lowering your suspension badly will!

[Brit 50]

And my final word on this subject.

Take a look at this van


It was developed and made by FORD
It has the SAME REAR LOWERING METHOD AS I USE .Even down to the standard leaf springs.Except it uses coilovers

P.p.s by the way, this van NOT developed by Ford, it was built as a project by Ford engineers as a bit of fun, not for production or everyday use, just a novelty.