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Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby farriervan2390 » Sun May 31, 2015 12:22 pm

Hi I've got a 59plate connect and Whilst trying to wore in a tow bar electrics I've inadvertently stopped my indicators and hazards working, I think I've fried a relay as I can't hear it clicking as normal, does anyone know where this relay is located and which one can't make sense of any diagrams, I'm thinking it could be under the dashboard cluster anyone know any help much appreciated thankyou, James
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Re: Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby paul2012 » Sun May 31, 2015 12:35 pm

2009 is the change over year on Connects.

Depending on what version you have :-

2003-2009 Indicator/Hazard relay is located behind heater control panel on the right. Secured to main dash support.

2009-2013 Dash & electrics is completely different to the earlier Connects - There is NO indicator/hazard relay - indicators are control via GEM module instead :!:

Post up a pic of you dash :wink:
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Re: Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby farriervan2390 » Sun May 31, 2015 3:30 pm

Thanks if it's the later model have you any ideas what's gone I've plugged it in to a ford diagnostics and no faults come up ???
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Re: Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby farriervan2390 » Sun May 31, 2015 3:33 pm

paul2012 wrote:2009 is the change over year on Connects.

Depending on what version you have :-

2003-2009 Indicator/Hazard relay is located behind heater control panel on the right. Secured to main dash support.

2009-2013 Dash & electrics is completely different to the earlier Connects - There is NO indicator/hazard relay - indicators are control via GEM module instead :!:

Post up a pic of you dash :wink:
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Re: Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby liteace » Sun May 31, 2015 3:49 pm

You have the later type, fitting tow bar electrics on this model requires one of these :

http://uk-trailer-parts.co.uk/7-way-uni ... ng-diagram
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Re: Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby farriervan2390 » Sun May 31, 2015 5:40 pm

liteace wrote:You have the later type, fitting tow bar electrics on this model requires one of these :

http://uk-trailer-parts.co.uk/7-way-uni ... ng-diagram



Cheers for that, I'd worked out I needed one of those after I blew the indicators, I've fitted one now but obviously still have no indicators, thanks for your help all,the same
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Postby liteace » Sun May 31, 2015 5:42 pm

I take it you've checked ALL fuses, if all good theres a poss chance you've damaged the GEM with the extra load from the trailer lights
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Postby farriervan2390 » Sun May 31, 2015 5:49 pm

liteace wrote:I take it you've checked ALL fuses, if all good theres a poss chance you've damaged the GEM with the extra load from the trailer lights

I've been through all the fuses and all seem good , this gem unit, is it like a body control module or different. I've been told that the relay I think I've bust could not exist and be part of this gem unit?? There is normally an audible clicking like that of a relay from the indicators does that not suggest the presence of a relay? And where is this gem unit located
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Re: Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby liteace » Sun May 31, 2015 5:57 pm

farriervan2390 wrote:
liteace wrote:I take it you've checked ALL fuses, if all good theres a poss chance you've damaged the GEM with the extra load from the trailer lights

I've been through all the fuses and all seem good , this gem unit, is it like a body control module or different. I've been told that the relay I think I've bust could not exist and be part of this gem unit?? There is normally an audible clicking like that of a relay from the indicators does that not suggest the presence of a relay? And where is this gem unit located
Cheers for the help james


Yep GEM is like body control module on others, it sits up in the left hand side, just to the left of the clutch pedal, the audible clicking is the dash clock pod sounding like a relay
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Re: Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby farriervan2390 » Sun May 31, 2015 6:08 pm

liteace wrote:
farriervan2390 wrote:
liteace wrote:I take it you've checked ALL fuses, if all good theres a poss chance you've damaged the GEM with the extra load from the trailer lights

I've been through all the fuses and all seem good , this gem unit, is it like a body control module or different. I've been told that the relay I think I've bust could not exist and be part of this gem unit?? There is normally an audible clicking like that of a relay from the indicators does that not suggest the presence of a relay? And where is this gem unit located
Cheers for the help james


Yep GEM is like body control module on others, it sits up in the left hand side, just to the left of the clutch pedal, the audible clicking is the dash clock pod sounding like a relay


Thanks for that I'll follow that up, if it's the gem that's damaged do you know if is difficult job to replace ? Are they programmed to the vehicle ?
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Re: Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby liteace » Sun May 31, 2015 6:15 pm

Dont know never changed one, I should think it'll need programming depending on the vehicle equipment level, with VCM 10 min job

If you got a used one from an identical van Im sure it'll just plug in and work
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Postby farriervan2390 » Sun May 31, 2015 6:18 pm

Thanks for all that much appreciated
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Re: Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby paul2012 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:39 am

If you've blow GEM module then central locking, wipers, headlights etc wouldn't work as well.
It's located behind fuse/relay panel on N/S (behind glove box)

Most likely blown a fuse.

Check fuse F130 15A

PS - GEM module do require to be programmed to vehicle. This is due to difference in vehicle spec - IE auto wipe/lights, Alarm, heated screen etc etc
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Re: Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby farriervan2390 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:22 pm

paul2012 wrote:If you've blow GEM module then central locking, wipers, headlights etc wouldn't work as well.
It's located behind fuse/relay panel on N/S (behind glove box)

Most likely blown a fuse.

Check fuse F130 15A

PS - GEM module do require to be programmed to vehicle. This is due to difference in vehicle spec - IE auto wipe/lights, Alarm, heated screen etc etc



Cheers for your help, I've located it now was that fuse embarrassingly thought I'd checked them all. !!!
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Re: Indicator relay please help !!!!!

Postby Manicmechanic18 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:19 pm

Hi, where will I find fuse F130? I have the same symptoms with my transit.
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