Puddle of water in drivers footwell

[Transit-man-van]

Puddle of water in drivers footwell even after resticking the seal around door. Might even be happening when not raining and coming from engine somewhere when driving.

The seal had gone quite a bit and was flapping about. I thought oh this will be an easy fix! So I sikaflexed that, made a good seal, but it doesnt seem to have done anything to stop water coming in.

What I did notice is it hadnt been happening for a while when I was parked for the week and I think it had even been raining some of that time.

The day I go out driving though, it was dry all that time that I recall, after some hours the water had formed.

I have had a feel around where the pedals are but have not been able to notice any damp besides the big puddle where the feet go.

So it is still rather a mystery to me.

Any ideas?

[metalworker0]

Read this thread

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=220622

Note in my answers i cover mk1 and mk2 ...and talk about opening in the chassis behind wheel that directs water into chassis

problem is still not resolved for this guy ......mine ..i park it down hill in drive no problems ..up hill in drive problems ..so it stays parking down hill ..

and there has been a lot of rain and flooding recently .

all the best.mark

[Transit-man-van]

Read this thread

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=220622

Note in my answers i cover mk1 and mk2 ...and talk about opening in the chassis behind wheel that directs water into chassis

problem is still not resolved for this guy ......mine ..i park it down hill in drive no problems ..up hill in drive problems ..so it stays parking down hill ..

and there has been a lot of rain and flooding recently .

all the best.mark

Thanks. It seems a common issue then. I looked at the first page so far and non of those suggestions seem to apply. Seems they were in different places than my issue or I could not think of the place they were referring to except the scuttle drain holes. I was looking and looking and could find nothing like the scuttle drain holes mentioned in the pictures. I thought that might be the most likely culprit but was unable to find them. 2007 connect.

I looked yesterday and didnt see any water after a week or so but it had been pretty arid for that week. It has been raining cats and dogs nearly 24 hours so let us see when it is light what has occurred.

[metalworker0]

There is one more place not mentioned in that post i linked to

that is the triangular plastic infill panels at the place where the wings meet the window surround .

there are 3 holes under there that hold the infill panel on ...each hole should have a clip with a sealing washer plus hole for bolt that holds the wing on .

a not so bothered owner in the past ..may have had the wing off ..left any one of them off as they break when its pulled off ..or even left the wing bolt out .

cant remember how many of these holes go right through .

will try and look for my picture with the wing off edit - NOT FOUND

but there is the rear most bolt that holds the wing on from the top ..just at the back of the bonnet hinge ...this may go through to inside ..and if that been left out !

all the best.mark

[Transit-man-van]

There is one more place not mentioned in that post i linked to

that is the triangular plastic infill panels at the place where the wings meet the window surround .

there are 3 holes under there that hold the infill panel on ...each hole should have a clip with a sealing washer plus hole for bolt that holds the wing on .

a not so bothered owner in the past ..may have had the wing off ..left any one of them off as they break when its pulled off ..or even left the wing bolt out .

cant remember how many of these holes go right through .

will try and look for my picture with the wing off edit - NOT FOUND

but there is the rear most bolt that holds the wing on from the top ..just at the back of the bonnet hinge ...this may go through to inside ..and if that been left out !

all the best.mark

Thanks, the water is indeed back after the couple of days downpour. I shall have to check that suggestion you mentioned. What would be the remedies? Would it require specialist parts specific to the transit connect to order or DIY a fix somehow?

[metalworker0]

I don't know, checking that panel, means pulling it off ..which destroys the clips. the clips are one time use only!..new clips from ford are £9_75 each !!!!.. i found the clips on ebay cheap ..but they where not for ford or advertised as fitting a ford, took ages to find ..but where identical - they were Peugeot ones ..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144883403856?

So that advice was just extra ..the water can come from anywhere. like i said the guy in that thread never found out where ...and my solution to it for my own van was to park downhill
WARNING .only take that triangular panel off as a last resort ..don't take it off until you've found the clips first cheap.

it's the same for all other clips on the connect from ford, stupid money and no better than the cheap ones found on ebay.
unlike the wheel arch spat clips,which are common, the special triangular panel clips will never be found at all advertised for connect ..that's why i ended up searching through hundreds to find alternatives.

all the best.mark

[Transit-man-van]

I don't know, checking that panel, means pulling it off ..which destroys the clips. the clips are one time use only!..new clips from ford are £9_75 each !!!!.. i found the clips on ebay cheap ..but they where not for ford or advertised as fitting a ford, took ages to find ..but where identical - they were Peugeot ones ..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144883403856?

So that advice was just extra ..the water can come from anywhere. like i said the guy in that thread never found out where ...and my solution to it for my own van was to park downhill
WARNING .only take that triangular panel off as a last resort ..don't take it off until you've found the clips first cheap.

it's the same for all other clips on the connect from ford, stupid money and no better than the cheap ones found on ebay.
unlike the wheel arch spat clips,which are common, the special triangular panel clips will never be found at all advertised for connect ..that's why i ended up searching through hundreds to find alternatives.

all the best.mark

I didn't read thus until I already pulled off one clip. I did it and noticed it wouldn't go back on so left it!

I suspect mine may not be an external leak at all and just large amounts of condensation which had been gathering in the roof above the headliner. I will note I am living in the van full-time and also cooking in it almost daily which are bound to be big contributing factors to the condensation. I am also parked on a downward slope with the front of the vehicle on he down slope so guessing this could have been causing the liquid to drain to the front even more as well as the natural curve to the windscreen,

I came to think this is the cause because I happened to have some plastic bags strewn on the front seats and over the clutch area too. I was noticing that scrunchy sound of water hitting them and looked over and there was a small pool by where the light was above and drops on the light. I already knew the water above there was an issue because there was mould on the sun visors and such.

What I have done is ripped out that nasty fiberglass stuff which was not doing much of anything to reveal huge drops covering that area. Wiped down and put cork insulation up. Was looking good this morning when looking with the torch with no visible drops that I could notice.

So last night was the first night. I have yet to measure the effect on the foot well. Would be pleasing if this was it as much easier to remedy if that is the case.

[Transit-man-van]

This is rather infuriating. Just when I think I may have cracked it the puddle comes back!

What do you think about just drilling a few holes in the foot well of passenger and driver seats to prevent it from forming?

There are drain holes in other parts of the van as standard so why not here too? Making sure to avoid wires of course.

Yesterday I ripped out all the plastic in the passenger side and underneath was horrendous. There must have been half a bucket of water underneath there which I would have never known about. The nasty insulation layer beneath also stank of stagnant water.

Much nicer to have the bare metal to know what is going on there and just more clean and spartan generally.

[metalworker0]

Just behind the front wheel on each side are these holes that lead into a cavity below the floor

don't know if this is the cause ..they are in direct line of spray off the tyre . and lead into a cavity below the floor and into the sills. - the wheel arch liner does not cover them from the line of fire !

Pictures show ..the one with a screwdriver showing the cavity during sill replacement ..the other I've just taken pic to show where they are .

have a look your self .

nothing proven here ...but this arrangement is not good and needs to be addressed ..i have not had the chance yet ..all it takes is a piece of rubber etc - extension of the wheel arch liner ..hanging in front of them ..

whilst I'm here ..and talking about the underneath ...look how the back bumper hangs down ...
this is another water trap ..and large wind trap ...causing loss of fuel economy...i recon by smoothing that out you'll get maybe 1 or 1.5 mpg more .


All the best.mark

[BULLY1471]

Had a similar issue only that water kept filling up the area around the pedals, only on driver side, I used all the info you guys provided and still not found the leak UNTIL....my mate suggested using a air line around the windscreen to see if that had any leaks, and it did halfway up the driver pillar where it had previously had a new screen with autoglass there was air coming through, so unless I wanted to get the screen cut out and re sealed I decided to take off the interior pillar trim and you could see the slight miss in the sealant where new screen had been bonded (very minor) and put some tiger seal down inside the pillar against the screen and HOORAY!!! its stopped, been a month now and still no water in the footwell