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weseeyou wrote:we have a coachbuilt Mk5 LWB and the layout is not typical but over the past 2x years I have found that the layout suits us.
I have drawn up dozens of different layout plans but find we always come back to the same plan.
I would suggest you think about how you intend to use the campervan. That should help you with the layout.
Most modern campervans these days have a superduper kitchen unit and cooker with a beautiful toilet and sometimes shower . They invariably have a 'rock n roll' bed .However if you think that you are most likely to stay on campsites with electric hookup (EH) you will probably never use a shower in the van ! Most campsites have free hot showers night and day .
I did a study of how we used our van over a years camping and it was a real eye opener.
Sleeping 8-9 hours (longer on weekends or if raining outside )
sitting eating 1.5 hours
sitting reading, surfing, watching TV DVD etc evenings 2-3 hours
cooking washing up etc 2.0 hours
shower wash dress etc 1.5 hours
out of the van 5-6 hours a day
misc fetching water emptying toilet cassette and waste water etc 1/2 hour
Those figures show that we spend an average 18-19 hours in the campervan (even more when it is raining outside) .On that basis it would seem pointless to spend a fortune on a grand sink and cooker unit and shower and give all of the primary space to these facilities and having uncomfortable seating and a fold up bed/s.
I would suggest that the seating and beds should take priority in space and cost . You need to be really really comfortable both when sleeping and sitting when spending between 14 to 16 hours a day either sitting or sleeping in the van.
I ripped out the Transit seats and put in 2x armchair comfortable reclining revolving seats with armrests. When we are camping we turn the seats to face the rear of the van so we can sit for extended periods in complete comfort whilst reading sufing and watching TV DVD etc (.Until you've driven with double armrests you don't know what comfort is believe me.)
Then I put in 2x full size single beds/day seats either side of the van immediately behind the cab area. These provide 2x immediately accessible beds without having to faff around with cushions and slats and bits of wood at night time . By placing a table in between it can be converted to a double bed.
The cooker, sink, fridge unit etc is at the back of the van with a toilet cubicle opposite. As we are always near to toilets we never use the Thetford portaloo for No2's so we could probably make do with just a portable toilet and a curtain for night time .We are thinking of removing the toilet walls and doors and just using a pull across curtain which will give much more space in the rear of the van opposite the cooker when cooking.
We are lucky enough to have windows for natural light and views all round the van but with the seats and bed up the front we could make do with just the windscreen and cab side windows if we needed stealth for wilding
I hope this might be of interest to anyone thinking of building their own campervan because once its all built in its too expensive to change it so you need to get it right at the beginning. My recommendation for those never using a campervan before would be to hire or borrow a campervan for a weekend and see how you feel about the layout after the weekend.


tonylem wrote:
The better the conversion works for you, the more enjoyment you will get from it and the more you will likely use it.

cjm2009 wrote:
The layout in my transit suits us down to the ground. I can't take any credit for it, a specialist firm did the work for the first owner. but it's a very clever use of space with minimal equipment and it's great to spend time in!

weseeyou wrote:
We love sitting in ours at dusk ,looking out over a reservoir or estuary, eating our evening meal in complete comfort. Its like our home-from-home



weseeyou wrote:we have a coachbuilt Mk5 LWB and the layout is not typical but over the past 2x years I have found that the layout suits us.
I have drawn up dozens of different layout plans but find we always come back to the same plan.
I would suggest you think about how you intend to use the campervan. That should help you with the layout.
Most modern campervans these days have a superduper kitchen unit and cooker with a beautiful toilet and sometimes shower . They invariably have a 'rock n roll' bed .However if you think that you are most likely to stay on campsites with electric hookup (EH) you will probably never use a shower in the van ! Most campsites have free hot showers night and day .
I did a study of how we used our van over a years camping and it was a real eye opener.
Sleeping 8-9 hours (longer on weekends or if raining outside )
sitting eating 1.5 hours
sitting reading, surfing, watching TV DVD etc evenings 2-3 hours
cooking washing up etc 2.0 hours
shower wash dress etc 1.5 hours
out of the van 5-6 hours a day
misc fetching water emptying toilet cassette and waste water etc 1/2 hour
Those figures show that we spend an average 18-19 hours in the campervan (even more when it is raining outside) .On that basis it would seem pointless to spend a fortune on a grand sink and cooker unit and shower and give all of the primary space to these facilities and having uncomfortable seating and a fold up bed/s.
I would suggest that the seating and beds should take priority in space and cost . You need to be really really comfortable both when sleeping and sitting when spending between 14 to 16 hours a day either sitting or sleeping in the van.
I ripped out the Transit seats and put in 2x armchair comfortable reclining revolving seats with armrests. When we are camping we turn the seats to face the rear of the van so we can sit for extended periods in complete comfort whilst reading sufing and watching TV DVD etc (.Until you've driven with double armrests you don't know what comfort is believe me.)
Then I put in 2x full size single beds/day seats either side of the van immediately behind the cab area. These provide 2x immediately accessible beds without having to faff around with cushions and slats and bits of wood at night time . By placing a table in between it can be converted to a double bed.
The cooker, sink, fridge unit etc is at the back of the van with a toilet cubicle opposite. As we are always near to toilets we never use the Thetford portaloo for No2's so we could probably make do with just a portable toilet and a curtain for night time .We are thinking of removing the toilet walls and doors and just using a pull across curtain which will give much more space in the rear of the van opposite the cooker when cooking.
We are lucky enough to have windows for natural light and views all round the van but with the seats and bed up the front we could make do with just the windscreen and cab side windows if we needed stealth for wilding
I hope this might be of interest to anyone thinking of building their own campervan because once its all built in its too expensive to change it so you need to get it right at the beginning. My recommendation for those never using a campervan before would be to hire or borrow a campervan for a weekend and see how you feel about the layout after the weekend.

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