Log book change - Do i need to box in gas bottle?

[suffolkboi]

Can someone confirm if the gas bottle must be ina air tight box for the Log Book change?

From what ive read it just need to be secured. Would like to know before i send all my stuff off though..

[john kyte]

I dont know answer,,,but on my 89 camper,,still an ambulance on v5 ,but insured as camper I have a chest of drawers
So,i removed two drawers ,cut a hole in floor below,then dropped the gas bottle into home made metal cage below floor--then put the two drawers back in
Result----saves space and the gas is outside[under] the van ---must be safer too

[FredTransit]

this sounds more like a question for the insurance than the DVLA. On the subject of your V5, the post office now do this at the counter. When I asked for what proof was needed I was told none! You can only change the tax class when you renew your tax.

[suffolkboi]

Im talking about changing the description to 'Motor Caravan'. I dont want to send all my photos etc off, and have the DVLA tell me the Gas bottle needs to be boxed.

[FredTransit]

really? This is body type then? Not taxation class? I shall ask the PO if they are doing this too, as they have taken a lot over from the DVLA after the local office closures. Cant see how the gas bottle is fitted makes any difference as the cooker can be electric.

[TIMO]

Im pretty sure you need any bottles boxed in,,, they also require a vent to the outside in case of leaks,,, not sure if its covered here but deffo a useful bit of info viewtopic.php?f=58&t=65473

[suffolkboi]

It appears not. I got this email from the DVLA

Thank you for your email received on 6/2/14. Your email reference number is 1775074.

The vehicle is required to display the following characteristics in order to meet the interpretation of “Motor Caravan”:-


Seats and a Table

integral part of vehicle living accommodation area, (mounted independently of other items)
table capable of being mounted directly to the vehicle floor and/or side wall
table mounting arrangement secured is a permanent feature, (bolted, riveted, screwed or welded) although table may be detachable
seats secured directly to the vehicle floor and/or side-wall
seats secured as a permanent feature, (bolted, riveted, screwed or welded)

Sleeping Accommodation

integral part of vehicle living accommodation area
either beds or beds converted from seats (to form a mattress)
secured as a permanent feature, (with base structures bolted, riveted, screwed or welded)
secured directly to the vehicle floor and/or side wall, (unless provision over driver’s cab compartment)

Cooking Facilities

integral part of vehicle living accommodation, (mounted independently of other items)
secured directly to the vehicle floor and/or side wall
secured as a permanent feature, (bodied, riveted, screwed or welded)
minimum of two ring cooking facility or microwave equipped in either case with fuel/power source

Storage Facilities

cupboard / Locker
integral part of vehicle living accommodation (mounted independently of other items, unless incorporated below seat/sleeping accommodation or the cooker)
secured as a permanent feature (bolted, riveted, screwed or welded)
secured directly to the vehicle floor and/or side wall (unless provision over driver’s cab compartment)

[TIMO]

Hmmm but as you would need a gas safe certificate for the build,, an enclosed locker with an external vent would be a gas safe requirement anyway,, so i would personally do it for my own well being anyway ,

[matt86_wd2]

were does it say you need a gas safe cert ?

I spoke to my dads mate who is gas safe registered and he said all he would do is do a gas leak test and make sure gas drop out vents by the joints .

As far i can see dvla or my insurance dont require a cert for the gas

matt

[TIMO]

were does it say you need a gas safe cert ?

I spoke to my dads mate who is gas safe registered and he said all he would do is do a gas leak test and make sure gas drop out vents by the joints .

As far i can see dvla or my insurance dont require a cert for the gas

matt

F,,k knows,,, but its in the beaurocracy somewhere believe me,,, apart from that,, wouldn t it be prudent to have a gas bottle inside a sealed compartment if inside the van,, with an external vent ,,? ,, all battery boxes have to have them as they produce gasses,, its a simple self preservation excersise to do it as standard dont you think ? Ever seen a propane explosion ?

[matt86_wd2]

ive seen a acetylene explosion before in a barn ... no pretty at all . This is why i have this ....





and still have drop out vents under hob and sink unit .

matt

[matt86_wd2]

were does it say you need a gas safe cert ?

I spoke to my dads mate who is gas safe registered and he said all he would do is do a gas leak test and make sure gas drop out vents by the joints .

As far i can see dvla or my insurance dont require a cert for the gas

matt

F,,k knows,,, but its in the beaurocracy somewhere believe me,,, apart from that,, wouldn t it be prudent to have a gas bottle inside a sealed compartment if inside the van,, with an external vent ,,? ,, all battery boxes have to have them as they produce gasses,, its a simple self preservation excersise to do it as standard dont you think ? Ever seen a propane explosion ?

Ahh i better vent my battery box then ? a small pipe going through floor will do i guess ?

matt

[TIMO]

exactly mate ,, failing to self preserve can cause death if you carry the bottle in the van youre legally required to have propane stickers on the van too .

[TIMO]

Ahh i better vent my battery box then ? a small pipe going through floor will do i guess ?

is yours mk6,, dont the battery have a vented pipe going through the floor ? Or you got a seperate liesure battery box? if so i,d vent it out if its inside the van

[matt86_wd2]

Yes a mk6 mate , was talking about liesure battery in the back of van , not quite in middle behind drivers seat a foot from the wall

Matt