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Cider Andy wrote:The big advantages to my mind in doing a 'proper' (fixed) conversion is it can be registered as a motor caravan (as opposed to panel van) which means car speed limits (up to 3050kg, so probably won't work for you) and cheaper insurance.
Cider Andy wrote:The big advantages to my mind in doing a 'proper' (fixed) conversion is it can be registered as a motor caravan (as opposed to panel van) which means car speed limits (up to 3050kg, so probably won't work for you) and cheaper insurance.
dumper wrote:Yes getting a conversion reclassified as a camper is nearly impossible two local guys who have been converting vans for years have given up on trying and now just change them to vans with windows if not all ready got that on the logbook.
hectors-tranny wrote:"However, it should be noted that even if the DVLA accept that the vehicle now meets the definition as a Motor Caravan, the vehicle class will not change on the V5 (registration document) only the vehicle description. If the vehicle was approved as an N1 Goods vehicle it will still be listed as an N1 Goods vehicle. This will have an impact on such items as speed limits applied to the vehicle and the London Congestion charge. If the intention is to have the vehicle both viewed and described as a Motor Caravan, then it must either be issued with a new chassis number and approved as an M1 passenger vehicle under the IVA scheme or, approved as a Motor Caravan prior to registration."
hectors-tranny wrote:If you think about it it would make no sense anyway. After all when converting a van you're not changing any of the running gear/brakes etc, so why would it suddenly be ok to drive it faster?!
hectors-tranny wrote:Cider Andy wrote:The big advantages to my mind in doing a 'proper' (fixed) conversion is it can be registered as a motor caravan (as opposed to panel van) which means car speed limits (up to 3050kg, so probably won't work for you) and cheaper insurance.
It's a common misconception that reregistering a panel van as a motorcaravan (changing body type) means car speed limits. It doesn't!
If you're interested I asked the DVSA when I was doing a conversion, and got this reply...
"However, it should be noted that even if the DVLA accept that the vehicle now meets the definition as a Motor Caravan, the vehicle class will not change on the V5 (registration document) only the vehicle description. If the vehicle was approved as an N1 Goods vehicle it will still be listed as an N1 Goods vehicle. This will have an impact on such items as speed limits applied to the vehicle and the London Congestion charge. If the intention is to have the vehicle both viewed and described as a Motor Caravan, then it must either be issued with a new chassis number and approved as an M1 passenger vehicle under the IVA scheme or, approved as a Motor Caravan prior to registration."
If you think about it it would make no sense anyway. After all when converting a van you're not changing any of the running gear/brakes etc, so why would it suddenly be ok to drive it faster?!
richbee wrote:hectors-tranny wrote:Cider Andy wrote:The big advantages to my mind in doing a 'proper' (fixed) conversion is it can be registered as a motor caravan (as opposed to panel van) which means car speed limits (up to 3050kg, so probably won't work for you) and cheaper insurance.
It's a common misconception that reregistering a panel van as a motorcaravan (changing body type) means car speed limits. It doesn't!
If you're interested I asked the DVSA when I was doing a conversion, and got this reply...
"However, it should be noted that even if the DVLA accept that the vehicle now meets the definition as a Motor Caravan, the vehicle class will not change on the V5 (registration document) only the vehicle description. If the vehicle was approved as an N1 Goods vehicle it will still be listed as an N1 Goods vehicle. This will have an impact on such items as speed limits applied to the vehicle and the London Congestion charge. If the intention is to have the vehicle both viewed and described as a Motor Caravan, then it must either be issued with a new chassis number and approved as an M1 passenger vehicle under the IVA scheme or, approved as a Motor Caravan prior to registration."
If you think about it it would make no sense anyway. After all when converting a van you're not changing any of the running gear/brakes etc, so why would it suddenly be ok to drive it faster?!
By that logic, Tourneo minibuses shouldn't be able to drive at car speeds either - there is no difference in running gear between van versions and minibus versions. I don't think that for modern vans there is anything that makes them unsafe at normal car speeds - they are allowed to do 70 on the motorway, same as everyone else, it's just a rather random choice of 60 / 70 mph limits coming down to 50/60.
dumper wrote:
Are you sure on that i think the tourneo is the same speed limit as a van .and I think I’ve seen somewhere that the connect version is the same .
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