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Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby skeet » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:53 am

Anyone else had a letter?
2018 125 2.0

I havent had any problems with mine.
The letter explains that the fuel is injected into the engine oil to combat emissions.
I guess if this goes wrong you end up with very diluted fuel!
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby FJ111200 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:55 pm

Glad you posted this, it's the very reason I've booked mine in on the 30th.
Though I don't know if it will include mine, 2016 130ps 2.0l, and won't find out until I get back from France a week on Saturday.
At least I've got a bit more ammo to go at them with now.
Thanks again for posting.
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby skeet » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:30 pm

To be honest I'm gobsmacked that theres a deliberate mechanism to inject diesel into the engine oil. If the sensor that detects the diluted oil fails that will mean a ruined engine.
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby demi34 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:23 pm

I had my letter today and I will take the van next week.
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby FJ111200 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 6:33 pm

@ skeet and @ demi34,
would you two mind if I asked you to send me a copy of your recall notices if I don't get one?
I'm not holding my breath for Ford to come clean with mine, though it is a problem I've told them about and they just say no faults found on the diagnostics, which I can only agree with when I connect the FORscan and that says no faults found.
I think I read in the manual that part of the forced re-gen does include a certain amount of diesel sent back to the sump. It's just pissing me right off that this is happening and I've only got until the end of January before the warranty runs out. My van is a 2016 on a 66 plate registered end of January 17, so nearly 3 years is up.
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby skeet » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:42 pm

Can do but the letter is covered in details of my van so I think you may need your own. Suggest you ask on the 30th?
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby clemmy » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:09 pm

I live in Italy and have my Tourneo Custom since few months. Bought second hand from a large Ford dealer nearby. It's 2017 but got it's plate in may 2018 then sold to me few months later.

I've not received any letter, but I've just checked ford etis with my plate number and the recall is listed.

18B42 same code as yours.
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby FJ111200 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:56 am

skeet wrote:Can do but the letter is covered in details of my van so I think you may need your own. Suggest you ask on the 30th?


Thanks. What I meant to say was, just to try and prove to the dealer that there's a fault with certain vans and mine is one of them though not a 2018.
I'll see what bullsh!t they come out with.
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby Chrisp74 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:42 am

Do we think that it actually puts fuel into the oil? Or fuel gets into the oil via the combustion process? ie piston blowby, EGR etc.
No expert but I thought fuel in the oil was a unwanted side effect of using extra fuel during the injection process to combat emissions?
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby FJ111200 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:57 am

I can't see that.
It would have been a problem since dot with any FI engine. My FI Tiger 800 doesn't do it, neither anyone else bike that I've heard of.
As far as I can see it's a fault that shouldn't be happening. An engine is an engine, no matter what type of fuel is being used.
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby richbee » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:49 am

skeet wrote:Anyone else had a letter?
2018 125 2.0

I havent had any problems with mine.
The letter explains that the fuel is injected into the engine oil to combat emissions.
I guess if this goes wrong you end up with very diluted fuel!


Nothing listed on ETIS for mine and no letter - 2017 130
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby skeet » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:44 pm

Chrisp74 wrote:Do we think that it actually puts fuel into the oil? Or fuel gets into the oil via the combustion process? ie piston blowby, EGR etc.
No expert but I thought fuel in the oil was a unwanted side effect of using extra fuel during the injection process to combat emissions?


I think you might be right actually. Hope so!
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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby woodbutcherbower » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:02 pm

All Euro 6 engines with a DPF end up with a small amount of fuel going into the oil. It's part and parcel of the emissions reduction mechanism and isn't injected deliberately as another poster has asked. The engine has an 'IOLM' (Intelligent Oil Life Monitor) sensor set which monitors the viscosity, theoretically warning the driver when the oil needs changing - hence the 'change engine oil soon' messages you may see on the dashboard monitor. All the software update does is to tweak the sensitivity of these - or that's how my local (very good) main dealer explained it to me. The software update is therefore designed to further reduce the possibility of the oil become too diluted and thus reducing its effectiveness.

Maybe I'm being a cynical old b*****d, but I think that this is Ford secretly admitting that they've f***ed up by claiming that the engine can do 36k between oil changes. Really? Are they serious? I change my oil and filter every 6k and always have done - my old Connect had done 272k at scrappage and the engine still ran like a sewing machine. Everything else had fallen to bits, mind .... :D

My update was done last week when I was having my 24k change done. The only noticeable thing when I drove it away was that the radio had dumped all of its presets. Battery disconnected for the update maybe?

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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby skeet » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:13 pm

woodbutcherbower wrote:All Euro 6 engines with a DPF end up with a small amount of fuel going into the oil. It's part and parcel of the emissions reduction mechanism and isn't injected deliberately as another poster has asked. The engine has an 'IOLM' (Intelligent Oil Life Monitor) sensor set which monitors the viscosity, theoretically warning the driver when the oil needs changing - hence the 'change engine oil soon' messages you may see on the dashboard monitor. All the software update does is to tweak the sensitivity of these - or that's how my local (very good) main dealer explained it to me. The software update is therefore designed to further reduce the possibility of the oil become too diluted and thus reducing its effectiveness.

Maybe I'm being a cynical old b*****d, but I think that this is Ford secretly admitting that they've f***ed up by claiming that the engine can do 36k between oil changes. Really? Are they serious? I change my oil and filter every 6k and always have done - my old Connect had done 272k at scrappage and the engine still ran like a sewing machine. Everything else had fallen to bits, mind .... :D

My update was done last week when I was having my 24k change done. The only noticeable thing when I drove it away was that the radio had dumped all of its presets. Battery disconnected for the update maybe?

Kev


I think you're right.
I was astounded but its the way the letter is worded.
I've always changed oil every 10k.

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Re: Recall 18B42 Oil dilution PCM (re)calibration

Postby Mikey msrt » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:28 pm

I had a 67 plate 2.0l with constant dpf and oil change required problems and told me is was due to oil dilution at 7500 miles and wouldn’t cover it under warranty and charged me to change the oil. Tried to fight it but didn’t get anywhere and not long after it need 4 new injectors which was faulty and putting the diesel in to the oil due to failed regen attempts. Ford have really failed in the design to the new engine
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