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Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby Neverhappy! » Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:32 am

Hi all new to this...
So got my new 5 seat dciv custom after few months wait and must say it’s a very nice machine.
I have a few gripes the main one being is motorway rpm. At 70mph has 2250rpm which seems high to me and will be thirsty.
Mate tells me his manual 130 sits at 1800rpm at 70 and 2000rpm at 80.
I appreciate autos use wee bit more juice but seems like massive difference in gear ratios?
Other main gripe is carpet in the cab, it will get wrecked! Anyone got a good solution for covering the arches and such, recommend good rubber mats?
Apart from that it’s surprised me how good the auto is, not great uphill at motorway speeds using cruise control but very easy to live with and I can’t be arsed changing gear!
Ordering the old fake leather seat covers to protect from mucky plumbers be good to get steer on that too....
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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby CRM » Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:58 pm

Hmmm interesting that, i am awaiting my new sport auto and if the ratios are way out that will indeed have a knock on with fuel economy.
I was averaging around 34 on my last 155 sport driving normally and unloaded most of the time (leisure vehicle)
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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby dumper » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:05 pm

Not a auto but I changed the diff from a 3.1 to 3.7 and overall it’s about the same if not slightly better maybe because I am using 6 th gear on 50 mph roads instead of 5 th and on motorways not driving faster when in no rush to stop having to keep dropping a gear on hills are you sure your van is running in top gear all the time .The transmission company who did the conversion has a 4x4 with the same gearbox set up and says if he drives in full automatic it’s up and down the gears all the time and is better on fuel in manual.my other thought of changing mine is it’s going to be easier on the dpf not clogging up with not running at to low revs
My mpg for a 460 is 28 to 32 mpg now the same as my old mk6 jumbo 135 .
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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby woodbutcherbower » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:47 pm

Neverhappy! wrote:Anyone got a good solution for covering the arches and such, recommend good rubber mats?


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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby Neverhappy! » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:01 pm

Hi All
Thanks for the tip on mats..
Spoke to ford service and they said the rpm sounds around normal.
Spoke to remap guys and they say nothing can be done if it’s the gearing
Like I said it drives well enough but I’m used to my previous auto cars being more economical on the motorway than local roads not the opposite
Only 2 fills around 64Litres got 450miles first tank and got told about the eco button hoping to get around 500miles don’t want drive like my old girl everywhere though!
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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby Neverhappy! » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:02 pm

Can’t change the diff or box 2 weeks into brand new van!
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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby dumper » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:31 am

I wasn’t expecting you to change the diffs it was just an observation of why the difference in revs and what the transmission man said about his 4x4 .
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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby Mike » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:16 pm

And we still don’t know what the mpg is :lol:
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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby woodstock » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:13 pm

my 130 auto says 34.5 on the dash readout, i calculated it as 32 doing a tank fill to tank fill and the ford app sends me messages saying im doing 32.5, happy days :D

half laden all the time , 50-50 A roads and town driving,and i keep to speed limits

the revs in top gear is right

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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby J.J McDuff » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:21 pm

Another possible solution for the wheel arches https://www.vanstyle.co.uk/van/black-in ... -7458.html

Was looking at these myself but postage for me would have cost more than the item (Australia)
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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby Neverhappy! » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:27 am

I reckon nursing it I will see 500miles to 64Litres so around 35mpg. If I hit that then seems decent for an auto van of its size.
I still say that if the high end auto ratio was close to a manual it would show a significant improvement in economy.
I read the the normal transits can have a 10speed auto I’m sure that would do it!
I’m happy with around town performance it’s just the motorway that bothers me, how does the 130 auto sit at 70mph?
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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby APW » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:13 am

Your van is new and will still be tight!!
I purchased my manual L2 dciv 130 almost 2 years ago with 35 miles on the clock, and it was doing about 28-30 mpg, after about 6-7K on the clock the mpg started increasing and now it returns 37-38.
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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby woodstock » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:27 pm

70 mph is about 2200 rpm in the 130 too

the fuel consumption is on par with my old 2.2 manual, i`m just glad i dont have to press a clutch about 600 times a day

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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby Mike » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:59 pm

This is a bit of a strange one, the op says that the van is low geared, but it struggles on motorway inclines, in my higher geared 155 I never felt it struggle on any motorway incline, even at the top end of the M6. So for a higher powered, lower geared van to struggle is odd to say the least. BUT the op hasn’t said if it’s fully loaded?
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Re: Custom 170 auto mpg

Postby Neverhappy! » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:06 pm

I guess it’s fair to say I need to give motor a chance to bed in it’s only on 1200 miles,I’d be well happy with 37 mpg though
Sorry I didn’t explain myself very well, it doesn’t struggle on motorway hills what I meant was your better off dropping cruise control as it drops a gear as if accelerating hard but it’s a nice box.
I’m guessing I’ve no more than around 250kg of tools and plumbing shite on board
Selling the family motor now this will do both jobs looking forward to chucking bikes and tent in the back get the bbq and beers on the go soon!
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