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Please help , need info on front disks please

Postby MONDYMANv6 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:38 pm

Hi guys , brill site you have here so nice to see the old transits here :D

i am changing ( trying ) the front disks on our Ford Transit X reg FWD 2.0 diesel , i have removed the wheel , the hub ret nut , split pin , hub nut , brake cal , but i cant get the front hub bit off to remove the disk , i had a look in the book and it says you need a special tool ( wheel bearing remover tool ) can his be done with out this tool as i have been told it can but this looks tight , the van needs to be ready for friday , can you please please please help. thank you.

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Postby MrMPuk » Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:41 pm

The special tool is for knocking the bearings in I think, don't think you need a special tool to get the hubs off!
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Postby MONDYMANv6 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:45 pm

so if the brake cal was off and the bolts have been removed from the disk , how do i remove the front hub part to remove the disc and put new ones on , thank you for the reply mate :)
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Postby MONDYMANv6 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:05 pm

in the book it says :

usng the wheel hub bolts , install the special tool.

then tighten the bolts in this sequence.

the tool looks like a round plate , with a threaded bar so when you remove the driveshaft this goes though , you put the nut on , the there is bolts and the back if you do these up it will push the unit out, i have been told it can be done with out this tool and i need to know how and have you lot done it wil out the tool , i have been hiting it for ages and now luck what so ever , i have removed the bolts for the disc but not the hex ones as they say to remove them when the hub comes off so that cant be holding it :(
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Postby MONDYMANv6 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:15 pm

any idears please or a step by step so i know where to go , i have worked on a lot of cars and vans but this one has me :((
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Postby MONDYMANv6 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:09 pm

any idears please people , i know it might seem like i am being a pain but we need this van for tomorrow 4pm to make a very important delivery as our other one is busy 200 miles away :cry:
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Postby MrMPuk » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:11 pm

The special tool just sounds like a puller to pull the hub off!
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Postby MONDYMANv6 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:20 pm

but it looks like it pushes the bearing out with the hub , but the tool bolts to the hub , so would the hub stay still with the hub bearing pusehed in to the hub or what ? , i have tryed hitting it and wont buge at all and really need help :cry:
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Postby MONDYMANv6 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:21 pm

sorry if being a pain but really need help on this.
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Postby MrMPuk » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:28 pm

Put some pictures up mate!
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Postby MONDYMANv6 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:30 pm

ok give me 3 mins.
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Postby Nighthawk » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:31 pm

The special tool is a plate and spindle that fits in place of the drive shaft on your 2.0 or the stub shaft on the rwd's

in reality it's a pain in the @rse to use and very often causes damage to the threads of the hub bearing carrier.

The easy way involves 2 long bolts with 19mm heads and 2 nuts to use on the bolts.

intrigued.........read on :wink:

undo the 5 torx 50 bolts holding the bearing onto the caliper


Get the pads out of the caliper and then undo the 2 bolts which hold the caliper onto the bridge, they have 18mm heads.


with the caliper supported to the side, push one of the long bolts through the hole where the caliper was mounted, now on the other side of the bracket hold the nut and thread the bolt through it.

do the same with the other long bolt and nut.

place one of the old pads against the disc and wind the long bolts through the nuts until the bolts make contact with the pad. holding the nuts with a spanner, tighten the bolts up evenly!!!!

before long the pressure from the bolts will begin to push the bearing unit out of the hub carrier, be aware that you'll need to give the drive shaft a wee tap every so often to prevent it from being pulled away with the hub. don't damage the threads though!!!
Once it's free of the carrier the hub will be unsupported and could fall on you! :shock:

Before you build it up, clean up the carrier and the bearing and apply a thin coating of copperslip to the faces.

if you start all 5 of the Torx 50 bolts up before tightening any of them fully, you can pull the bearing back in place with ease.

Hope that helps :D

BTW, the torque for the big nut on the shaft is 430Nm, if it's not torqued up enough the bearings aren't preloaded and will last about 6 months.

the torx bolts were 69Nm from memory and the caliper bolts around the 175Nm (i think.......make sure they are tight!)
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Postby MONDYMANv6 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:40 pm

this is the pic of the tool

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Postby MONDYMANv6 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:51 pm

so i place the old pad on the left side of the disc , what holds the nut on or stops the bolt from spining etc , i am not sure on what you are saying :cry: , and how to you do it on the left part of the disk to pull it on evnley etc

all so what size are the hex heads so i know what bit to buy to remove them. thank you.
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Postby MONDYMANv6 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:58 pm

arr hang on i see what you are saying thats brill , if i do that it will only push on one side though wont it , on the side where the brakes were , is that how its done or can it bee done on both sides of the same disk etc , thank you.
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